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Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by Rohansi »

shakna wrote: post #363
Rohansi wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> * Small note on this specific CVE though: to the extent I looked into it [0], I'm not sure I find it reasonable to classify it as an RCE. It was a UX hiccup, the software was working as intended, the intention was just... maybe not quite wise enough. Most people seem to see "CVE" and "RCE" and assume the worst here. As you saw though, Notepad is just making totally valid URIs clickable! Web browsers allow it too -…

Thats not the case here. Web browsers warn you about opening arbitrary protocols. And you have to select the program that will open it. This Notepad vuln, allows you to click things like ssh://x....

> This Notepad vuln, allows you to click things like ssh://x....

Which just opens up SSH connecting to a server. Is that really RCE?

It'll also only work with URI schemes that are registered on your system. It's not running arbitrary commands - software you install on your PC registers URI schemes and sets what command it should run when opened. It's then up to that software to parse the URI and handle it properly. If it doesn't then the RCE belongs to them because they registered the URI scheme and failed to handle it securely. Having an allowlist of URI schemes in Notepad isn't going to fix it.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by [deleted] »

procone wrote: post #381
datenyan wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "adding rich text editing features to a text editor” Yeah, we already had that. In the form of Wordpad. Which was EOL'd. And now we have Notepad with AI features. Notepad was, and always should have been, a simple & lightweight text box for storing and editing text only files. If you wanted to edit something more complicated, you could use the other tool that was built into Windows specifically for that.

Wordpad was horrible! Nobody reasonable misses binary encoded .rtf files. They were a nightmare for any other platform other than windows. What are these horrible takes?

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Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by hliyan »

paxys wrote: post #102

I was about to make a joke about how I'm surprised they haven't shoved Copilot into Notepad yet, but surprise - they have ( https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/enhance-your-wri... )

I recently thought my keyboard was faulty. I take my notes on notepad, and after a recent update, sensed that keystrokes occasionally get missed or delayed. After a few days, I noticed it was not happening on Google Docs. On a whim I checked Notepad settings and found a new setting, enabled by default: "AI features > Copilot". I disabled it, along with "Autocorrect", and haven't had the problem since.

Notepad is supposed to be a bare bones editor -- where you go when everything else fails. The VI of Windows. If they want a rich editor, they should bring back WordPad.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by amyjess »

Are there any text editors for Windows that are feature-for-feature and bug-for-bug compatible with the Windows 95 build of Notepad?

I'm looking for a plain and simple text editor with no programmers' features—no line numbers, syntax highlighting, etc.—no tabs or MDI whatsoever. No, I'm not looking for something with "you can turn these off", just a complete reimplementation of Win95 Notepad made via black-box testing.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by jsrcout »

scoopr wrote: post #90
Longhanks wrote: post #4

They’re turning Notepad into what Wordpad was (or was supposed to be). Now everyone looking for the light weightiest *.txt editor must find a new tool...

Well, at least they brought back edit[0] [0] https://github.com/microsoft/edit

Edit is unironically one of my favorite text editors these days. It opens incredibly fast compared to everything else I use, it's easy to use, works fine on Linux. It's not going to replace emacs or VS Code, but it's incredibly handy for basic editing chores.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by cm2187 »

amyjess wrote: post #394

Are there any text editors for Windows that are feature-for-feature and bug-for-bug compatible with the Windows 95 build of Notepad? I'm looking for a plain and simple text editor with no programmers' features—no line numbers, syntax highlighting, etc.—no tabs or MDI whatsoever. No, I'm not looking for something with "you can turn these off", just a complete reimplementation of Win95 Notepad made via black-box testin…

The original notepad was completely broken in the first place anyway. Can't handle large files, ctr+Z would cancel a large random number of previous actions, the search feature is case sensitive and barely useful, etc. What do you miss vs a Notepad++?

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by somenameforme »

wk_end wrote: post #109
somenameforme wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

notepad++ is great, though they have a dubious habit of dumping political messages on releases.

I don't have any use for Notepad++, but reading about this makes me wish I did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notepad%2B%2B#Political_messag... The possibility of software being a personal, creative, expressive endeavor (which often includes politics), something I believed in back when I was in university twenty years ago, is a feeling that's receded deeply into the past. That might be as much about me as it is about…

Imagine the result if everybody took to this mindset. Look at everything that's on your desk right now, and what percent of it was made in e.g. China. Imagine if they decided to just start jamming political slogans onto everything. Or for something closer to home, surgeons and anesthesiologists are largely conservative. [1] Imagine if they started signaling their politics. Many people, ironically often those most predisposed to try to make their own political views highly visible, do a poor job of tolerating the views of others. This sort of behavior would just cause complete chaos and disorder and make everybody even more pissed off at each other than they already are.

And political signaling can also make you look bad even to the audience that might ideologically agree with you. For instance notepad++ takes a position on essentially every big controversial US geopolitical issue, but they are conspicuously silent on the Gaza issue. If they hadn't taken on any political positions, this isn't an issue. But when they take a position on every divisive issue, suddenly their not taking a position on one like this effectively is taking a position, but it's one that (for once) they don't want to say.

[1] - https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/870192?form=fpf

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by amyjess »

cm2187 wrote: post #396
amyjess wrote: post #394

Are there any text editors for Windows that are feature-for-feature and bug-for-bug compatible with the Windows 95 build of Notepad? I'm looking for a plain and simple text editor with no programmers' features—no line numbers, syntax highlighting, etc.—no tabs or MDI whatsoever. No, I'm not looking for something with "you can turn these off", just a complete reimplementation of Win95 Notepad made via black-box testin…

The original notepad was completely broken in the first place anyway. Can't handle large files, ctr+Z would cancel a large random number of previous actions, the search feature is case sensitive and barely useful, etc. What do you miss vs a Notepad++?

I absolutely need a pure SDI workflow. I like browsing through files on disk by the double-clicking them, reading through them a bit, and then using Alt+F4. I tried that with Notepad++ once and I ended up with hundreds of files open in tabs because Notepad++ remembers everything you've ever opened even if you Alt+F4 the app.

I also like sometimes having multiple files open at once and drag the windows around my monitors as I need to and you can't do that in Notepad++.

Also Notepad++'s UI is bloated. There's just too much going on.

And please don't suggest I muck around in settings, I'm not interested in spending hours mucking around in a gigantic bloated settings dialog, I want something that Just Works™ with no configuration just like Win95 Notepad.

Edit: My specific use case here is for viewing files, not editing them. I use a different editor when I'm actually writing stuff but for browsing I just want old Notepad.

Re: Windows 11 Notepad to support Markdown

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Post by LtWorf »

zadikian wrote: post #261
j2kun wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is my favorite part of this story. Do you want remote code execution? Because [fixing things that aren't broken] is how you get remote code execution.

Meanwhile TextEdit on Mac always rendered HTML. Which seems useless until you realize it can also edit and save as HTML. So there's casually a wysiwyg web editor built into macOS that idk how many people use.

If it also allowed me to type what I want instead of changing every single word due to "spell check" it would actually be a useful tool!
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