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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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I don’t think we can truly compare the missile attacks of Hamas vs the bombing campaigns of Israel Look at any photo of any neighborhood in Israel, is there anywhere that remotely looks similar to the pile of rocks that Gaza looks like now? Universities, hospitals, so much infrastructure, all gone. So much of Gaza is now people living in tents. Israel destroyed so much civilian infrastructure that existed. How’s that…

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> All the hospitals are rubble? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_d... "By February 2024, it was reported that "every hospital in Gaza is either damaged, destroyed, or out of service due to lack of fuel."" > And it's irrelevant anyway as hospitals lose their protected status when used for military purposes. A lie. https://www.icrc.org/en/document/protection-hospitals-during... "Even then, hum…

It was "reported that", doesn't make it so. And note that one of the reasons noted was "lack of fuel". Gaza never ran out of fuel, it was an artificial shortage caused by Hamas.

Why do you say it's a lie that they lose their protected status? Read what Geneva actually says.

And I note yet another reference to "proportionality" as if it's some magic spell. Such usages imply the actions are not proportionate--but that is never actually addressed. Underwear gnome logic.

Citing chapters in Geneva is not a rebuttal. "Geneva" is yet another magic spell. I'm reminded of the repeated denials by Hamas of bunkers under the main hospital. And Israel came out and said there's no question they exist as we built them. Israel is very big on civil defense.

Night, not illuminated. And note that your summary of Israel's conclusions does not say whether the people actually were non-combatants.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

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> I’m not sure why the Palestinians…

> That’s Hezbollah, Hamas…

Sleight of hand happening here.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

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The old, they had it coming defence of genocide.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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I don't know what to tell you. If you think I don't believe that Israel structurally dehumanizes Palestinians, you'd be wrong. But you'd also be wrong in thinking that this is somehow a deviation from the norm; both sides are actively governed by their political extremes, like I said.

You're painting with broad-strokes here which comes off as disingenuous, I presume that's not your intention but it calls into question your understanding of the history between these states being laid bare. I suggest reading Hamas' 2017 charter in full for proper context.

I think I understand the two pretty well. And I've read both the 2017 and 1988 charters. The funny thing about charters is that you can put anything in them; the IDF's charter[1] is an exercise in frustration for anybody who knows literally anything about how the IDF actually behaves, and so for Hamas.

[1]: https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/our-mission-our-values/

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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> All the hospitals are rubble? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_d... "By February 2024, it was reported that "every hospital in Gaza is either damaged, destroyed, or out of service due to lack of fuel."" > And it's irrelevant anyway as hospitals lose their protected status when used for military purposes. A lie. https://www.icrc.org/en/document/protection-hospitals-during... "Even then, hum…

It was "reported that", doesn't make it so. And note that one of the reasons noted was "lack of fuel". Gaza never ran out of fuel, it was an artificial shortage caused by Hamas. Why do you say it's a lie that they lose their protected status? Read what Geneva actually says. And I note yet another reference to "proportionality" as if it's some magic spell. Such usages imply the actions are not proportionate--but that…

> Gaza never ran out of fuel, it was an artificial shortage caused by Hamas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_blockade_of_the_Gaza_S...

> Night, not illuminated.

The red/blue emergency lights (and headlights) are visibly illuminated in the video.

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> Hamas was insane to think that Bibi would NOT BOMB the Gaza in retaliation. My theory is that they knew this would happen and they did it because they knew it would garner support (which it did) and they also knew they had nothing to lose because this is what would have happened in the long-term anyway. They chose between a quick death and a slow death. Unfortunately, everyone else who originally chose them to prot…

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Gaza has been under a near-total naval blockade since 2007 (which is an act of war BTW). Any meaningful "reduction of tensions" would have included lifting that.
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