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Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by edgyquant »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #386
randusername wrote: post #329

My old-school protestant pastor started with an AI disclaimer in the sermon yesterday. What a time to be alive! I don't know what to do with my double standard here. It seems totally normal and expected that I would outsource aspects of my job solving business software problems to AI, but the idea of my spirituality and cultural experience (music, movies, art, etc) being someone else's business problem to be outsourc…

It's not like they work a lot, why would a religious leader need to outsource spiritual advice to a chatbot? It only shows that all humans are lazy, no matter how virtuous they want to be seen as. IMO this counts as sloth. Hopefully this discredits religions even more with the younger generations. Claiming that an immensely powerful being demands obedience of you, and keeps tabs on you all the time, but his orders on…

You’re seething hatred is so obvious from this comment that no one should consider your opinion as anything close to valid

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by butterbomb »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #386
randusername wrote: post #329

My old-school protestant pastor started with an AI disclaimer in the sermon yesterday. What a time to be alive! I don't know what to do with my double standard here. It seems totally normal and expected that I would outsource aspects of my job solving business software problems to AI, but the idea of my spirituality and cultural experience (music, movies, art, etc) being someone else's business problem to be outsourc…

It's not like they work a lot, why would a religious leader need to outsource spiritual advice to a chatbot? It only shows that all humans are lazy, no matter how virtuous they want to be seen as. IMO this counts as sloth. Hopefully this discredits religions even more with the younger generations. Claiming that an immensely powerful being demands obedience of you, and keeps tabs on you all the time, but his orders on…

> Claiming that an immensely powerful being demands obedience of you, and keeps tabs on you all the time, but his orders only go through a chosen few, was a hard proposition to begin with.

You just described what Silicon Valley wants to build lol

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by adrianN »

portmanteur wrote: post #311
adrianN wrote: post #132

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You have a lot of faith in the qualities of average priests.

Not sure what this is implying, but aspiring priests are required to have a Bachelor’s degree before entering Seminary, or it tacks at least two years onto a very rigorous six-year seminary program. The seminary program is on par with getting a Master’s degree in Philosophy and Theology. Further, only 30-50% of seminarians ultimately become ordained as priests, due to the rigorous vetting program and “discerning out.…

I know little about theology and philosophy but I’ve interviewed enough people with master’s degrees to be able to say that there a very large differences between skilled degree holders and average degree holders, at least in my field.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by gitonup »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #366
kstrauser wrote: post #350

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That’s fundamentally different, and I think you know that. It’s one thing to ask an algorithm how to build an A* driving map from point A to point B. It’s another to ask one how to be a better person and go to Heaven. I’m not religious, and I’m not arguing this from a pro-religion POV. I happily work in AI, and I’m not arguing this from an anti-AI POV. I am highly technical. I love computers. I’m excited about the fu…

It’s not fundamentally different it’s people who are taking physical actions in the real world based on trust in some system whether it’s a human or not they’re trusting the system with their existential outcomes That is literally exactly the same thing. The fact that you think that the rules of you being a father are somehow different than the rules of you driving to a appointment indicate that you have a completely…

Disclaimer: raised Catholic, now Atheist, married to devout Catholic.

The Church as defined by the institution is a community. I do not see it as a contradiction that the head of the institution is instructing the leaders to not add more layers of abstraction between them and the community, especially when those messages are on the subject of what it means to be human.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by karel-3d »

DonHopkins wrote: post #195
karel-3d wrote: post #93

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It will surprise you but we don't literally believe there is a face in the sky looking down.

Yeah, but you literally and officially hate LGBTQ+ people, treat women as property, condone slavery, and literally hallucinate that crackers and wine are flesh and blood in spite of what your eyes, nose, taste buds, and all scientific instruments and measurements tell you. Edit: yet you can't counter the objective fact that the Catholic Church is a hateful abusive power hungry cult full of dogmatically hallucinating…

I will surprise you but I agree with one of your points- the abuse crisis is horrible and it should be stopped. Its a deep and recurring stain on the church - and I hope the new generation of the clergy will finally chase it out.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by verdverm »

wolvesechoes wrote: post #232
verdverm wrote: post #2

What does it mean to search yourself for words, even if they fall short of the eleganance that Ai can produce? "What to do when Ai says 'I love you'?" discusses this conundrum https://www.npr.org/2025/07/18/g-s1177-78041/what-to-do-when... I've been paying attention to Sherry Turkle since I caught this show over the summer. She was on a panel at Davos titled "Swipe Left on Reality" which was the first time I heard he…

> phrase "frictionless relationships" Peak post-modern world, where everything is more real than real, yet doesn't have any friction of the real.

The Matrix has it wrong, the people went willingly, even excitedly

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by b3ing »

solatic wrote: post #48

No priest will feed sufficient context about their community into the context window - even if they were skilled enough to do so, unless the model was locally hosted, doing so would be a violation of their vows of silence. Good homilies are written with the particular community in mind. If it were more effective to write a homily for a generic public, the Vatican would have started publishing standard homilies long a…

Homilies are not the core of Catholic mass, the Eucharist is. Protestant churches put more emphasis on the sermon, not sure if it’s all Protestant churches or just “Evangelical” ones

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by daxfohl »

> But all collected data had yet to be completely correlated and put together in all possible relationships.

> A timeless interval was spent in doing that.

> And it came to pass that AC learned how to reverse the direction of entropy.

> But there was now no man to whom AC might give the answer of the last question. No matter. The answer -- by demonstration -- would take care of that, too.

> For another timeless interval, AC thought how best to do this. Carefully, AC organized the program.

> The consciousness of AC encompassed all of what had once been a Universe and brooded over what was now Chaos. Step by step, it must be done.

> And AC said, "LET THERE BE LIGHT!"

> And there was light

-- Father Isaac Asimov

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Post by seanw444 »

accidentallfact wrote: post #159
whatever1 wrote: post #96

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I read the other day that the Roman Empire never fell. Its emperor is the Pope. Which is an exaggeration, but makes you thinking. This institution still has a ton of power.

It fell, (quite violently, in fact) in the third century. The rest was pretense.

The western half, sure. You're ignoring the eastern half which carried the mantle for another thousand years. And the concurrent existence of the Holy Roman Empire, which was also intertwined with the Roman Catholic church.
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