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Post by johnwheeler »

hadlock wrote: post #195
johnwheeler wrote: post #162

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I just dislike Sam Altman, and I think he's just using this as a marketing ploy, which is more dishonesty from him. People keep saying OpenClaw is hype. I installed it, but I never tried to run it, and I don't know what the compelling reason is to. Supposedly you can talk to your agent from your iMessage? Who cares? Why not just talk to Claude Code?

The big draw of open claw is the memory architecture. Because you effectively start from scratch every time you open a new claude chat. Open Claw on the other hand, it compacts regularly, but also generates daily digests, and uses vector search, and then uses thoughtful memory retrieval techniques to add relevant context to your queries. Recent things get weighted more heavily, but full text search of all chats is st…

So it sounds like you get extra memory at the expense of having to compact more because, of course all those things are going to take up context. But since you’re not interacting with it in some kind of turn based fashion it makes it worth it— the lack of context doesn’t matter. Is that correct?

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Post by Rapzid »

ass22 wrote: post #375
TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

"build a hugely popular tool" Define hugely popular relative to the scale of users of OAI... personally this thread is the first time Ive heard of openclaw.

Last week it was renamed from "Clawd" and this week the creator is abandoning it. Everything is moving fast.

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Post by shimman »

badlogic wrote: post #317
shimman wrote: post #289

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don't do this, this is ridiculous. both openclaw and pi are passion projects by two friends who are already well off.

If we're in a thread discussing someone getting a job off of the project, it seems fair to discuss how other members are being compensated too.

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Post by [deleted] »

windexh8er wrote: post #341
xvector wrote: post #236

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Hey, as a security engineer in AI, I get where you're coming from. But one thing to remember - our job is to figure out how to enable these amazing usecases while keeping the blast radius as low as possible. Yes, OpenClaw ignores all security norms, but it's our job to figure out an architecture in which agents like these can have the autonomy they need to act, without harming the business too much. So I would disagr…

Security is always a cost center. We've seen multiple iterations of changes already impact security in the same ways over the last 20+ years. Nothing is different here and the outcomes will be the same: just good enough but always a step behind. The one thing that is a new lever to pull here is time, people need far less of it to make disastrous mistakes. But, ultimately, the game hasn't changed and security budgets…

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Post by xmprt »

ass22 wrote: post #375
TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

"build a hugely popular tool" Define hugely popular relative to the scale of users of OAI... personally this thread is the first time Ive heard of openclaw.

To give you an idea of the scale, OpenClaw is probably one of the biggest developments in open source AI tools in the last couple of months. And given the pace of AI, that's a big deal.

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Post by shimman »

p-e-w wrote: post #323
shimman wrote: post #289

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What nonsense is this. You seem to be implying that contributing to an open source project creates some kind of entitlement to whatever another contributor attains. That’s not how it works.

I think it would be a very interesting discussion in how open source projects get compensated. Acting like it's shameful to discuss things, in a thread literally about someone making a massive payday by getting hired from an OS project, is odd.

It's not like it would be an impossible ask to include a stipulation to also compensate other developers, but what do I know? In fact I'm curious why this doesn't happen more, but it feels like crab bucket mentality which is the mindset VC culture has exported across the world.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by lumost »

Personal agents disrupt OpenAI’s revenue plan. They had been planning to put ads in ChatGPT to make revenue. If users rapidly move to personal agents which are more resistant to ads, running on a blend of multiple models/compute providers - then they won’t be able to deliver their revenue promises.

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Post by sathish316 »

Aurornis wrote: post #349
TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

> This buy out for something vibe coded I think all of these comments about acquisitions or buy outs aren’t reading the blog post carefully: The post isn’t saying OpenClaw was acquired. It’s saying that Pete is joining OpenAI. There are two sentences at the top that sum it up: > I’m joining OpenAI to work on bringing agents to everyone. OpenClaw will move to a foundation and stay open and independent. OpenClaw was no…

I think the blog says @steipete sold his SOUL.md for Sam Altman’s deal and let down the community.

OpenClaw’s promise and power was that it could tread places security-wise that no other established enterprise company could, by not taking itself seriously and explore what is possible with self-modifying agents in a fun way.

It will end up in the same fate as Manus. Instead of Manus helping Meta making Ads better, OpenClaw will help OpenAI in Enterprise integrations.

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Post by F7F7F7 »

xmprt wrote: post #396
ass22 wrote: post #375

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"build a hugely popular tool" Define hugely popular relative to the scale of users of OAI... personally this thread is the first time Ive heard of openclaw.

To give you an idea of the scale, OpenClaw is probably one of the biggest developments in open source AI tools in the last couple of months. And given the pace of AI, that's a big deal.

In what context are you using the word "development?"

Letta (MemGPT) has been around for years and frameworks like Mastra have been getting serious Enterprise attention for most of 2025. Memory + Tasks is not novel or new.

Is it out of the box nature that's the 'biggest' development? Am I missing something else?

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