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Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Post by ebbi »

asadm wrote: post #384
ebbi wrote: post #383

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was begging to go party with someone that spent time in prison for child exploitation. That in itself should make you hate the dude.

Yup. Hate him as person. But he is still net positive with his scientific/engineering contributions, is he not? Wasn't Edison an asshole?

Dunno, I'd rather have unabused kids than the technological breakthroughs he has contributed to. Anyone being giddy to meet with a convicted pedo is very sus in my books, and deserves no respect, regardless of their prior contributions.

Children were exploited, and we're doing this net positive analysis on whether he should face the scorn. I'm not having a go at you - it's just frustrating to see very little happening after so much has been exposed, and I think part of it comes from this mindset - 'oh he's a good guy, this is a mistake/misstep' while people that were exploited as children can't even get their justice.

It's sickening.

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Post by dkarras »

snowwrestler wrote: post #329
dkarras wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It absolutely offers some legal protection. If it is implemented correctly, no legal framework for it is required. Government forces you to enter your password. You comply and enter "a" password. The device shows contents. You did what you were asked to do. If there is no way for the government to prove that you entered a decoy password that shows decoy contents, you are in the clear. Done correctly (in device and OP…

> You comply and enter "a" password. The device shows contents. You did what you were asked to do. No, you did something fake to avoid doing what you were asked to do. > If there is no way for the government to prove that you entered a decoy password that shows decoy contents, you are in the clear. But there are very effective ways to find hidden encrypted volumes on devices. And then you’ll be asked to decrypt those…

>No, you did something fake to avoid doing what you were asked to do.

Yes, that is what plausible deniability is.

>But there are very effective ways to find hidden encrypted volumes on devices. And then you’ll be asked to decrypt those too, and then what?

I emphasized "done right". If existence of hidden encryption can be proven, then you don't have plausible deniability. Something has gone wrong.

My point was: OP claimed plausible deniability does not apply in legal cases which is a weird take. If you can have plausible deniability, then it can save you legally. This does not only apply to tech of course, but encryption was the subject here. In all cases though, if your situation is not "plausible" (due to broken tech, backdoors, poor OPSEC in tech, and / or damning other evidence in other cases as well) then you don't have plauisble deniability by definition.

Having ways of definitively detecting hidden encrypted volumes might be the norm today, might be impossible tomorrow. Then you will have plausible deniability and it will work legally as far as that piece of "evidence" is concerned.

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Post by zozbot234 »

buckle8017 wrote: post #175
KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #167

What is she investigated for?

They're not actually investigating her, they're investigating a source that leaked her classified materials.

If they're not investigating her she doesn't have any 5th-amendment protection and can be compelled to testify on anything relevant, including how to unlock her devices.

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Post by neves »

nova22033 wrote: post #236

Remember...they can make you use touch id...they can't make you give them your password. https://x.com/runasand/status/2017659019251343763?s=20 The FBI was able to access Washington Post reporter Hannah Natanson's Signal messages because she used Signal on her work laptop. The laptop accepted Touch ID for authentication, meaning the agents were allowed to require her to unlock it.

I just searched the case. I'm appalled. It looks like USA doesn't have legal protection for reporter sources. Or better, Biden created some, but it was revoked by the current administration.

The real news here isn't privacy control in a consumer OS ir the right to privacy, but USA, the leader of the free world, becoming an autocracy.

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

pyrophane wrote: post #326
asadm wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Maybe. I don't think we yet have a good understanding of how many deaths he will have caused as a result of DOGE so abruptly cutting off assistance to so many vulnerable people around the world, but I've heard estimates hover around 600,000. Assuming that number turns out to be close to reality, how do you weigh so many unnecessary deaths against VTL rockets and the electric cars? Perhaps a practitioner of Effective…

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Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Post by zerocrates »

rationalist wrote: post #388
thallium205 wrote: post #378

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On Pixel phones, Power + Volume Up retrieves a menu where you can select "Lockdown".

Not on my Pixel phone, that just sets it to vibrate instead of ring. Holding down the power button retrieves a menu where you can select "Lockdown".

On my 9 you get a setting to choose if holding Power gets you the power menu or activates the assistant (I think it defaulted to assistant? I have it set to the power menu because I don't really ever use the assistant.)

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Post by rantingdemon »

everdrive wrote: post #363
TheDong wrote: post #250

I find it so frustrating that Lockdown Mode is so all-or-nothing. I want some of the lockdown stuff (No facetime and message attachments from strangers, no link previews, no device connections), but like half of the other ones I don't want. Why can't I just toggle an iMessage setting for "no link preview, no attachments", or a general setting for "no automatic device connection to untrusted computers while locked"? W…

>* Lockdown Mode disables javascript JIT in the browser - I want fast javascript, I use some websites and apps that cannot function without it, and non-JIT js drains battery more This feature has the benefit of teaching users (correctly) that browsing the internet on a phone has always been a terrible idea.

I'll bite. Why is it so terrible? I'm browsing this site right now on my phone and don't see the horror.

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ebbi wrote: post #391
asadm wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. Hate him as person. But he is still net positive with his scientific/engineering contributions, is he not? Wasn't Edison an asshole?

Dunno, I'd rather have unabused kids than the technological breakthroughs he has contributed to. Anyone being giddy to meet with a convicted pedo is very sus in my books, and deserves no respect, regardless of their prior contributions. Children were exploited, and we're doing this net positive analysis on whether he should face the scorn. I'm not having a go at you - it's just frustrating to see very little happenin…

> I'd rather have unabused kids than the technological breakthroughs he has contributed to

I'd rather have both. Hawthorne doesn't get nuked if Elon Musk goes to jail.

> Children were exploited

Abuse. Exploitation. CSAM. We're mushing words.

Child rape. These men raped children. Others not only stayed silent in full knowledge of it, but supported it directly and indirectly. More than that, they arrogantly assumed–and, by remaining in the United States, continue to assume–that they're going to get away with it.

Which category is Elon Musk in? We don't know. Most of the people in the Epstein files are innocent. But almost all of them seem to have been fine with (a) partying with an indicted and unrepentant pedophile [1] and (b) not saying for decades–and again, today–anything to the cops about a hive of child rape.

A lot of them should go to jail. All of them should be investigated. And almost all of them need to be retired from public life.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20220224113217/https://www.theda...

Re: FBI couldn't get into WaPo reporter's iPhone because Lockdown Mode enabled

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Post by rconti »

thecapybara wrote: post #369
mbil wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminder that you can press the iPhone power button five times to require passcode for the next unlock.

Did you know that on most models of iPhone, saying "Hey Siri, who's iPhone is this?" will disable biometric authentication until the passcode is entered?

hm. didn't work on my 17 pro :( might be due to a setting i have.
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