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Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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Tax rates are not the same as effective taxes paid, and US taxes as a percent of GDP are at an all time high. This is besides the fact that gdp is many times higher, growing geometrically. It is an interesting question of what changed in terms of ability to execute, but lack of funding isn't the answer. I suspect it is a combination of scope creep, application to intractable problems, and baumols cost disease at work…

> US taxes as a percent of GDP are at an all time high I found this from the Federal Reserve: "Federal Receipts as Percent of Gross Domestic Product" https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFRGDA188S It looks pretty steady around 17%. It was as high as 20% in the late 1990s. However, this does not include state and local taxes. I could not find a source for it. What is your source of information?

I was thinking something along the lines of this: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1CFpQ

However, my main point was to refute the idea of some mythical past where the government was massively more funded, and therefore more competent and capable.

This also ignores the effect of the growing pie over time, but that is somewhat a tangent.

If someone is referencing back to the 1930s tax rates, those total receipts were closer to 10% of GDP when things like the Hoover Dam and Interstate System were being built.

Today, the rates are closer to 30% and the GDP being taxed is 25-30 times larger, controlling for inflation.

To me, this suggests that the reason we can't perform infrastructure projects is not lack of funding

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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> As you've seen, over, and over, and over again, this is their own internal rule they've changed it before and they can just change it again with a simple majority, the so-called "nuclear option". It's called the "nuclear option" because actually using it is mutually-assured destruction. They're not so stupid that they can't foresee ever being in the minority again when changing a rule where that consideration is th…

I think it's very telling that your understanding of the present situation is "you hate the other party's President".

The thing I find irritating is that the government has been doing things as bad the things Trump is doing for decades, and those things are actually bad and shouldn't be done, but people are now acting like Trump invented them.

Don't get offended that Trump is more brazen about anything than anyone else and try to retaliate against him in particular, instead change the things that need to be changed so that nobody can do those things anymore, even when they're acting like they're not.

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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Neither is petroleum, nuclear, or the highway system. What's your point?

Wind is the worst of all, otherwise the UK would have the cheapest energy in the West, instead of the highest

Stop lying: https://electrek.co/2026/01/14/uk-offshore-wind-record-aucti...

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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feel free to present the arguments rather than just name-calling the post i replied to didn't present any substance either there's serious ecological problems with these turbines, the materials cant be recycled, and their uninstallation is incredibly costly they just don't seem like a great source of energy

GP was mocking you (not calling you names) because your comment was just a classic uninformed (some would even say stupid) opinion, and was presented as you "looking at wind as objectively as I can" Maybe if you look at the comment context a little more objectively, you'll agree there's some thing quite funny about it. _______________________________ Putting that aside though, lets look at your claim: > there's serio…

There's all the same waste products being dumped into the atmosphere during the production of the entire turbine itself, it's not entirely different.

And you didn't address the environmental damage to the oceans. this case is specifically greenlighting off-shore windfarms. Iif this was on land, i wouldn't care what people do with their own money and resources. But it's got serious implications for whales, of which there's a decreasing amount of. It's not foolish to care about endangering species that are important parts of underwater ecosystems.

You should take complaints seriously in general, I'm not mocking you for your point of view, those are nice details, and I take them seriously, so why are you mocking me? Mocking people over serious topics is just a display of insincerity. you seem to care a lot about the topic, so why not represent yourself better?

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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"The President's party loses seats in the midterms" is a long-term trend and it seems pretty likely to hold this time. The real question is, once the Democrats are back in control of at least one house of Congress, are they going to be sane or are they going to spend two years making such fools of themselves that we end up with another Republican President in 2028?

>once the Democrats are back in control of at least one house of Congress "Are the democrats magically going to be able to have 100% control of the government despite only holding a tiny majority in the lower house? If not, I'm going to yet again blame them for a failure that is actually just the constitution working as it clearly states" The US system is not designed to give democrats any power by holding a small ma…

> Are the democrats magically going to be able to have 100% control of the government despite only holding a tiny majority in the lower house?

They're not supposed to have 100% control of the government. Nobody is. They're supposed to prevent the Republicans from doing dumb stuff, just like the Republicans are supposed to prevent them from doing different dumb stuff because they have different constituencies. Only when they can both agree is when the government should be doing something, and even then you often need help from the courts and the states because the thing they both agree on is that someone is paying them to do something bad.

The best government is the one that does exactly what it should. The second best is the one that doesn't do things that it should; in that case someone else can do them, like the states or the market. The worst is the one that does things that it shouldn't.

> FDR was able to reform and change things the way he was because Democrats had something like 80% control of both houses

FDR was pre-Nixon and had 80% control by sweeping the South and losing New England. People forget that the original purpose of the minimum wage was to prevent black people from taking jobs from white people by offering to work for less money. Most of FDR's policies were economically illiterate or political knavery -- social security was created with the solvency of a pyramid scheme which is why the trust fund already has a negative growth rate and is soon going to run out of money now that population growth has leveled off.

That kind of authoritarian steamrolling over the opposition is exactly what nobody should be able to do, not least because it most often happens when people are heated about something and willing to start hastily implementing half-baked ideas with long-term consequences if given the chance.

> It's much easier to obstruct and prevent and destroy

If only! A major defect in the existing system is that the high bar meant to keep bad laws from making onto the books to begin with is also applied as the requirement to repeal them. Combined with the tendency for the powerful to defend the status quo that secured them that power, the result is that bad laws accumulate and how to be effective in destroying them is an unsolved problem.

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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Half the states are actively engaging in voter suppression, and the ones that aren't are under attack on all fronts by the federal government.

Yes, if the states themselves which to subvert their own elections, they definitely have the power to do that. > under attack on all fronts by the federal government That seems hyperbolic. There's a lot of rhetoric, certainly, but executive orders are toothless against the states and they all know it.

> executive orders are toothless against the states and they all know it.

And judicial orders are toothless against the federal government... And the states can't lift a finger against any deployment of federal power against them, whether it's legal or not.

What recourse will a swing state in November have against ICE goons being deployed to do Kavanaugh arrests in voter lines?

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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>People in genuine cults are suffering and being abused. Not true at all. The only difference between a cult and a religion is popular acceptance. That's it. Some people suffer in christianity, just like how some people suffer in scientology. Many people in both religions don't suffer at all. Tibet is a country with a religion that believes in serfdom and slavery. That's why China doesn't like them. >There are many,…

> The only difference between a cult and a religion is popular acceptance. That's typically caricature. I encourage you to study things more thoroughly before allowing yourself to form an opinion. One simply can't know a subject before having thoroughly studied it. > It's just you PREFER the christianity bullshit. I'm not Christian. Regardless, Christian teachings are freely available. Anyone can practice on their ow…

> I'm not Christian.

Apologies, I assumed such from the way you described architecture. Few western religions have influence on architecture as much as Christianity.

>Scientology's "highest teachings" are kept private. Its primary purpose seems to be raising money by abusing people's naivety. Compare that to the Christ's « love thy neighbor as thyself. » Very distinct essences.

That's your assumption. I can easily assume that Catholicism primary purpose is to hide a ring of people who engage in rape and pedophilia. There are different angles to every religion, you're just indoctrinated with the most populist angle. In the same way much of the west doesn't realize the religions of tibet and falun gong have cult like aspects FAR worse then scientology.

>Which one promotes social stability?

Both. Morality is not required for stability.

>I think you've essentially said « I don't care whether people around me get slaughtered, because I'm not the target audience. » Allow me to find this self-centered. And still to find it okay-ish.

You're just twisting and manipulating the logic so you can maintain the moral high ground when in actuality you're twisting everything.

The first problem is I'm not talking about mass slaughter. When the fuck did that become the topic? Are you saying I promote mass slaughter because China promotes mass slaughter? You're under this western propaganda where you seem to think China is some futuristic cyberpunk city on top but underneath the system is bathed in blood, torture slaughter and evisceration. Nothing is further from the truth.

When China tortures, when china executes someone, it is for crimes that fit punishment. They won't execute you if you're in a cult. They will execute you if you stole millions of dollars. The debate is about degree but the overall severity is reasonable.

I'm sick of talking to people with a misguided view of China. It's like talking to a clown. Somehow people like you are convinced that it's just blood and evil underneath.

>Not what I was hinting at.

Speak in english please, don't speak in hints. I said religions were not true, you countered with architecture. Now you claim it was a hint. Hint: don't speak with hints.

>They actually are, but I haven't articulated the reasoning fully. Nor do I feel encouraged to articulate it. If you're truly in good faith, enough has been already said for you to do your own research

No they aren't. I don't need to do research for a country I'm highly familiar with and even lived there for quite some time. I'm going to be utterly clear: You are ignorant and you are illogical and you need to do research. I'm Chinese. And I was born in the states. I know both cultures intimately, you only know one through the lens of US propaganda.

Good faith my ass. If you were talking to me in good faith you'd concede your lack of knowledge.

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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> US taxes as a percent of GDP are at an all time high I found this from the Federal Reserve: "Federal Receipts as Percent of Gross Domestic Product" https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFRGDA188S It looks pretty steady around 17%. It was as high as 20% in the late 1990s. However, this does not include state and local taxes. I could not find a source for it. What is your source of information?

I was thinking something along the lines of this: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1CFpQ However, my main point was to refute the idea of some mythical past where the government was massively more funded, and therefore more competent and capable. This also ignores the effect of the growing pie over time, but that is somewhat a tangent. If someone is referencing back to the 1930s tax rates, those total receipts we…

By way of analogy, imagine someone making a $20k salary that can do big things while spending 10% of their salary projects. However, someone making $600k, spending 30% of that on projects can't get get meaningful work done.

These are the proportions we are talking about. It begs a lot of questions.

Are the projects really comparable? Did competence change? Did the working environment?

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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There are a lot of people on "both sides" who choose their positions on the issues to fit their political party as opposed to choose the party that fits their positions. Particularly for an issue like offshore wind or Keystone XL that is basically "out of sight and out of mind" there are millions of people who would change their position if the right people told them to.

That's how parties work, of necessity. They are all uneasy alliances of people who can barely tolerate each other. People find the one that supports their most important issues and hopefully few things they really detest. Then they have to pay at least lip service to all of it. By getting everyone else's support, at least one or two of your favorite issues get worked on. In doing so you need to find a way to live wit…

Having seen student politics with and without parties - my student union had them, my engineering society banned them - I'm convinced that it's not bad voters that ruin democracies but political parties. Parties need to simplify their messages to get buy in, and promote a 'team first' over 'issues first' mentality in their members. They're anathema to principles of honest debate and compromise.

Re: Court orders restart of all US offshore wind power construction

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There it is, the both sides brigade, right on time! No, Keystone XL was not the same level of pettiness as offshore wind. Find me the IPCC report equivalent that makes the case for wind farms doing whatever social damage Trump says they do. I'll wait.

The difference is that the right wing version is stupid + stupid = consistent -> wins (feels authentic to somebody even when it is completely disingenuous) and the left wing version is smart + stupid = inconsistent -> loses (feels demoralizing to the true believers, feels disingenuous to everyone else, see Kamala Harris) e.g. "woke" is really a left wing retread of right wing ideology, for instance that "defund the p…

Paging @aeb-kun!

The craft of "rationalist cover stories" as a class of band-aids!

Remember how you failed to help "black people"? The people who make the dems what they are today seem to more than 2 steps removed from that:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46727418

The emotional concerns that underly this ineffective (akratic) behaviour seem to come from uh "rationalist suffering" (the modern day version of white man's burden?)

Piketty 2022 section on Educational Justice (page 1007) thinks that its because dems are the overeducated children of the "Brahmin left".

So I think you've got the right diagnosis- reps are the undereducated children of the "Merchant Right", so their rationalist* cover stories are naturally more convincing :)

*Pecuniary===rational as in the "Legitimation Crisis"

Ps: somewhat better (=less overtly social-darwinist) handwringing, but not quite a bandaid

https://archive.ph/JC8Ip

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