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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by tylerchilds »

luddit3 wrote: post #202
tylerchilds wrote: post #122

This is funny because everyone’s AI strategy should have been “What do we actually need to be productive?” Which is how Anthropic pulled ahead of Microsoft, that prioritized checks notes Taking screenshots of every windows user’s desktop every few seconds. For productivity.

You were robbed last night. No way Jelly Roll should have won.

I love you for this reference lol

I hate how I’ve had a web site with my name on it since 2008 and when you google my name verbatim it says “did you mean Tyler Childers”

Such shade from the algorithm, I get it, I get it, software is lamer than music.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by stoneforger »

groundzeros2015 wrote: post #97
walt_grata wrote: post #68

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Fuck is there a way to have that degree and not be clueless and toxic to your colleagues and users.

They seem better at working in finance and managing money. Most models of productivity look like factories with inputs, outputs, and processes. This is just not how engineering or craftsmanship happen.

It's because the purpose of engineering is to engineer a solution. Their purpose is to create profit, engineering gets in the way.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by dangus »

Dusseldorf wrote: post #367
dangus wrote: post #292

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I don’t plan on using the feature and I don’t plan on using Windows much longer in the first place, but I find that going beyond the ragebait headlines and looking at the actual offering and its privacy policy and security documentation makes it look a lot more reasonable. Microsoft is very explicit in detailing how the data stays on device and goes to great lengths to detail exactly how it works to keep data private…

Until those switches come in the crosshairs of someone's KPIs, and then magically they get flipped in whatever direction makes the engagement line go up. Unfortunately we live in a world where all of these companies have done this exact thing, over and over again. These headlines aren't ragebait, they're prescient.

Well, now you’re just doing the same exact thing I described. You’re basically making up hypothetical things that could happen in the future.

I’ll agree with you the moment Microsoft does that. But they haven’t done it. And again, I’m not their champion, I’m actively migrating away from Microsoft products. I just don’t think this type of philosophy is helpful. It’s basically cynicism for cynicism’s sake.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by almosthere »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #193
mgkimsal wrote: post #154

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> No, there is Github Copilot, the AI agent tool that also has autocomplete, and a chat UI. When it came out, Github Copilot was an autocomplete tool. That's it. That may be what the OP was originally using. That's what I used... 2 years ago. That they change the capabilities but don't change the name, yet change names on services that don't change capabilities further illustrates the OP's point, I would say.

To be fair, Github Copilot (itself a horrible name) has followed the same arc as Cursor, from AI-enhanced editor with smart autocomplete, to more of an IDE that now supports agentic "vibe coding" and "vibe editing" as well. I do agree that conceptually there is a big difference between an editor, even with smart autocomplete, and an agentic coding tool, as typified by Claude Code and other CLI tools, where there is n…

all of these companies are going to follow each other's UX patterns for the rest of time.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by almosthere »

mirekrusin wrote: post #186
timr wrote: post #144

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> There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. No, there is Github Copilot, the AI agent tool that also has autocomplete, and a chat UI. I understand your point about naming, but it's always helpful to know what the products do.

...it gets better: GitHub Copilot is a service, you can buy subscription from here https://github.com/features/copilot . GitHub Copilot is available from website https://github.com/copilot together with services like Spark (not available from other places), Spaces, Agents etc. GitHub Copilot is VSCode extension which you can download at https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=GitHub.c... and use from VSCo…

Might be a good time to start a Copilot Copilot company that manages all your copilots.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by Sharlin »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #385
hightrix wrote: post #337

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To further your argument, look at the XBOX. It is impossible to tell which is the latest model by name alone. Where the playstation is simple, the latest is the 5, the previous was the 4, and the one before that was the 3.

Oh no I just realized the next generation will be called Microsoft 365 Xbox Copilot

There will be an integrated voice LLM that hallucinates advice and "useful" tips as you play and cannot be turned off

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by [deleted] »

hightrix wrote: post #337
marssaxman wrote: post #294

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> Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. They really won't, though; Microsoft just does this kind of thing, over and over and over. Before everything was named "365", it was all "One", before that it was "Live"... 20 years ago, everything was called ".NET" whether it had anything to do with the Internet or not. Back in the '90s they went crazy for a while calling everything "Active…

To further your argument, look at the XBOX. It is impossible to tell which is the latest model by name alone. Where the playstation is simple, the latest is the 5, the previous was the 4, and the one before that was the 3.

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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by rustyhancock »

skfiehcusjcn wrote: post #377
kemotep wrote: post #127

Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

People already do pay for it: office 365. It’s just like getting cloud storage with the subscription. OneDrive has been one of the better cloud storage options for consumers. Also, a great use is Microsoft Forms I was surprised with the AI features. At first I just used it to get some qualitative feedback but ended up using copilot to enter questions Claude helped me create and it converted them into the appropriate…

Yes. Similarly I have Gemini through having 2TB space on Google Photos.

I have 2TB with OneDrive too via a Family Office account and I've got no good reason to have the large gapps space.

A ChatGPT account and pay for two Claude accounts.

Netflix, Disney+, Prime.

How did this happen to me?

Perhaps I should sign up to one of those companies that will help me close accounts I keep seeing advertised on YouTube?

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by Sharlin »

phkahler wrote: post #326
estimator7292 wrote: post #305

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Marketing has too much power. They get some hairbrained scheme to goose the numbers and just slam a mandate all the way down the org. Is "Copilot" not getting enough clicks? Make every button say "copilot", problem solved. Marketing doesn't know or care what was there before, someone needs numbers up to get their promotion.

>> Is "Copilot" not getting enough clicks? Make every button say "copilot", problem solved. Marketing doesn't know or care what was there before, someone needs numbers up to get their promotion. So Microsoft isn't bringing copilot to all these applications? It's just bringing a copilot label to them? So glad I don't use this garbage at home.

Yes and no, because "Copilot" isn't any single thing, but can mean whatever they want it to mean in different contexts.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by banku_brougham »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #385
hightrix wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To further your argument, look at the XBOX. It is impossible to tell which is the latest model by name alone. Where the playstation is simple, the latest is the 5, the previous was the 4, and the one before that was the 3.

Oh no I just realized the next generation will be called Microsoft 365 Xbox Copilot

Microsoft 365 Xbox X Copilot S
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