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Re: STFU

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Post by dyauspitr »

SuboptimalEng wrote: post #154

Indian-American here. Thank you for this! I have hearing sensitivity and have repeatedly asked my parents to lower the volume on TVs, whatsapp videos, insta reels 100s of times. They always lower it for 5 minutes before raising it back. Likely because they are losing their hearing, but unable to admit that. I tend to be very mindful of others (maybe because I grew up in America), but my parents are not even mindful o…

On the flip side, people with hearing sensitivity are the most god awful people to deal with. It’s like the entire world has to quiet down for them when they could just as easily put in ear plugs instead.

Re: STFU

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Post by calmbonsai »

mlfreeman wrote: post #141
mrexroad wrote: post #55

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You touched a nerve for me — folks hiking with Bluetooth speakers. My god that grinds my gears. I can see an argument for playing music (at reasonable volume) while relaxing at a camp site, but on the trail it’s as aggravating as a dirt bike or snowmobile ripping along near by.

In potentially-dangerous-animal country (e.g. grizzly bears, mountain lions, etc), it could be a safety mechanism...I was told repeatedly you need to make some kind of distinctive noise regularly so they won't get startled by you rounding a bend.

That's what "bear bells" are for...in bear country.

Mountain lions are avoidant at all times unless it's a mother with cubs and even then they'll let you know well in advance.

Otherwise, just normal conversation, your smell with even a light breeze, and the vibrations on-trail will alert all animals to your presence.

In other words, the "trail music" theory is bullshit. They just want to listen to their music.

Re: STFU

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Post by dyauspitr »

_vqpz wrote: post #160

The idea that 12 lines of vibe coded JavaScript prompted because someone was too scared to talk to someone disturbing him (but not enough to take a creep shot and blast him on Twitter) could make it to the top post of this website is quite sad.

And twitter was just a static page you could post 140 character messages to.

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Post by mezyt »

onethought wrote: post #382
pseudosavant wrote: post #345

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I've recently become a convert to this kind of thinking. The person invited the public to join in when they decided to have a public speakerphone call. If they don't want my responses or laughter, they get annoyed and stop the behavior I was finding annoying in the first place. I don't even have to act like I'm bothered by it, or that I find their behavior offensive. They change their behavior because they are bother…

How is that different than two people talking in person? Do you interrupt them as well?

A half conversation is a lot more disruptive because your brain try to fill in the gap of information.

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Post by prmoustache »

mrexroad wrote: post #335
anigbrowl wrote: post #233

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Maybe go without headphones and pay attention to your surroundings instead. I have zero patience for such excuses from people who choose to impose their preferences on other people.

> Maybe go without headphones and pay attention to your surroundings instead. This. Even when you are seemingly quiet on a trail, 90% of wildlife are hiding from you. It’s amazing what happens when you stop and sit in complete silence for 5-10 minutes — a whole hidden world comes alive around you. 10/10, highly recommend. > I have zero patience for such excuses from people who choose to impose their preferences on ot…

This is domething I realized riding my MTB by night in the forests in the mountains. Thanks to the reflection of all those eyes staring at your headlight you realize the sheer amount of wildlife there is hidden a few meters from you.

Re: STFU

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Post by prmoustache »

fwipsy wrote: post #111
dylan604 wrote: post #63

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I've heard many people say the cannot stand they way earbuds feel. Just like many people said they could not breath wearing a mask.

I can't stand the way earbuds feel. That's why I wear over-the-ear headphones or bone-conducting headphones. There are so many options for personal audio. Even if you're truly allergic to all of them, that doesn't give you the right to inflict your noise on others. Imagine if everyone decided they were entitled to play their music on speakers. The result would be a cacophony where nobody can hear their own music and…

Nobody is forced to listen/watch stuff anyway. If you don't have the mean to do it quietly, you can just abstain yourself from doing it.

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Post by [deleted] »

baxtr wrote: post #36
tra3 wrote: post #28

In the style of cheap tiktoks: "There are two types of people...". My wife loves listening to her phone on max volume, but it sounds so bad compared to half decent speakers. Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! Also why are people using speaker phones in public places at max volume. The speaker i…

I find it absurd that music in cafés and restaurants has become so loud that it’s hard to have conversations with the people on your table. Sound pollution is a real thing.

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Re: STFU

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Post by prmoustache »

sneak wrote: post #183
maerF0x0 wrote: post #60

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I'm with you. IMO sound pollution is no different than 2nd hand smoke. IMO It should not be anyone's right to impose upon others, especially when there are lower externality options. Wear headphones. "Not everyone owns headphones" is such a dumb response because 1. This entertainment is purely optional (not needed for survival) and 2. There are $4 headphones on amazon making me believe in cheaper/poorer markets you c…

Secondhand smoke is toxic and physically damages your body and enters your bloodstream. Someone playing music is annoying and does not physically harm you in any way. These are not remotely the same thing. There is a clear bright line between them.

Unwanted noise affect stress level which has an impact in health.

It is not just harmless annoyance and not everyone is equal in that regard.

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Post by mordechai9000 »

carlosjobim wrote: post #389
barbazoo wrote: post #42

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I bet it's by design. If you actually make things pleasant you might accidentally create a third place and no one can profit from that!

To be contrarian: If people are comfortable they stick around and keep ordering more stuff.

If people are uncomfortable, they can predict how often they can turn the table over and get another party in there.

Re: STFU

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Post by prmoustache »

jszymborski wrote: post #307
tra3 wrote: post #28

In the style of cheap tiktoks: "There are two types of people...". My wife loves listening to her phone on max volume, but it sounds so bad compared to half decent speakers. Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! Also why are people using speaker phones in public places at max volume. The speaker i…

> Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! I've not done this, and I don't think I would ever do this, but I can sympathize with having the idea that they don't want to be so isolated from nature so as to have headphones blocking out the sounds of the world around them dampened, but also feel like it…

When you are hiking there is actually a ton of noise/songs to listen to. Especially birds.
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