Taking their sponsors page at face value and doing the math, they're bringing in close to $100k/month with corporate sponsorships alone... how much money could maintaining a framework possibly cost?
They had 8 employees
Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team
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Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team
#392I bought their Plus thing a while back and not I can't find myself a reason to use it.
If I was considering that purchase in today's landscape, I would surely not buy it. At $299 USD I can have a decent model do the job of writing custom tailored components for me and iterate extensively on them.
Hard sell with a "UI Kit" versus a "UI Brain".
If I were Adam I would drop to $29.99 and accept the status quo, but not make it lifetime access to try and not piss off existing owners, and I would pivot to building a Frontend AI Agent and a Tailwind Labs Model.
Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team
#393Only an anecdote, but I was working on a side project with another dev who wanted to use Tailwind Plus components. It wasn't immediately obvious whether this was allowed under his personal license or if we'd have to get a team license instead, though.
We decided to go with a FOSS component library instead to avoid any potential issues down the road. After re-reading the license page now, I'm still not sure.
Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team
#394[flagged]
You might want to clarify that Adam responded to someone commenting about another individual being laid off from Laracasts; he did not call the individual who was laid off an idiot
Thanks for correcting me. I re-read his reply a few times and came to my same conclusion.
Funny story, it turns out the "Control Panel for Twitter" browser extension I use breaks rendering on the current version of X and gave me the impression that Adam was replying directly.
Sorry, Adam.
Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team
#395Companies like Vercel, Lovable, and Stackblitz should pay salaries to each of these engineers. Their business succeeded only because Tailwind exists.
Companies like Vercel, Lovable, and Stackblitz should dissolve because their existence is a net negative for humanity.
Why is there existence a net negative for humanity?
Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team
#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, here you said it; is it over now?
I'm confused, do you not know what "we" means?
Yes, I have no idea who's this magical "we" in your "We can simply". To me this seems like a textbook coordination problem leading to a tragedy of the commons- even if you got 99.9% of the world into your "we", the remaining "defectors" would have a massive benefit from using AI to replace human labor.
Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team
#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a convincing argument: Pay me for some of my labor or you stop getting labor at all.
Don't tell me you're giving me something for free in the first place then. It's simple.
This breaks down because Tailwind is not monetized, is completely free, and hasn't indicated it won't be.
There is a corporate side with other features that has never been free. I pay for it because it's great.
I'm not sure if you're purposefully misstating it at this point or not. Several people have corrected you and you seem to double down incorrectly each time.
Re: Creators of Tailwind laid off 75% of their engineering team
#398Here is a link to their commercial offerings. https://tailwindcss.com/plus?ref=top
i just gave my favorite LLM a screenshot of one of those components and it recreated it perfectly. i paid $0. i dont see how any business model can compete with free. maybe they can focus on branding like Pepsi or Coke and see if developers will make their decisions based on that.
> i just gave my favorite LLM a screenshot of one of those components and it recreated it perfectly. i paid $0.
Because it's most likely in the training data. I.e., it stole it for you.
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#399Earlier quoted context omitted.
UBI will turn Earth into the Earth of the Expanse. I truly believe it would be absolutely ruinous on man. Our psychology is just not built for that.
That’s unproven, but suppose it’s true: what’s your alternative? If we are in fact facing widespread unemployment, what’s going to be better than UBI at avoiding societal collapse? Billionaires paying private armies to contain poor people is a straight-up sci-fi dystopia but even that depends on enough people having money to buy things from their companies.
DDT has been banned, cigarettes are all but banned, leaded fuel has been banned. Nuclear energy has been banned in Germany.
The industry wanted all of that and did not get its way after some time. You can ban "AI", make companies respect copyright. You can do all sorts of things.
Since "AI" can only plagiarize, countries that do the above will have an edge (I'm not talking about military applications that can still be allowed or should be regulated like in treaties for nuclear weapons).