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A website to destroy all websites

henry.codes

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Re: A website to destroy all websites

#391
If the internet is so awful, why don't we abandon it?

I mean, nobody forces us to use it.

Well, sometimes people do. But I think that's precisely the moment when we have to push back and tell them that we are not okay with using some WhatsApp group. And if they ask why, ask them if they know what Cambridge Analytica was, and if they like it when the political system is being manipulated.

Re: A website to destroy all websites

#393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you intend to write it up? It would be interesting to get your take on how the classification works. And personally, as I know my feed is on the index as well, into which category my writing would be sorted.

Wasn't their workflow just that anyone can modify their feed list on github? Or was there a postprocessed list?

Probably a part of it, but I did not submit my site there directly at least. I think they used different sources to seed the list. There was a very active thread on HN about two or three years ago where very many folks shared their personal websites and from that several OPML lists where compiled. I noticed quite an uptick in feed subscribers around that time.

Also by the way, Henry Desroches, the author of the article we are discussing in this thread, also maintains a web directory personalsit.es, where I had submitted my site as well, so that might have also been a source for the kagi small web index.

Re: A website to destroy all websites

#394

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you intend to write it up? It would be interesting to get your take on how the classification works. And personally, as I know my feed is on the index as well, into which category my writing would be sorted.

Probably not. I lost interest when I figured out how poor the dataset is.

Fair enough, I've added your site to my reader just in case you change your mind ;). The mechanics of your process actually sound more interesting than the results.

Re: A website to destroy all websites

#395

The open web needs to be preserved. And bespoke web pages are great. However it isn’t 1998 anymore. The second you expose anything to the public internet it is going to be flooded by malicious bots looking for things to exploit. Unless you are putting up static HTML the learning curve to have a website that runs will continue to run immediately slopes to the point where it is not worth it. Despite OP saying they aren…

> The second you expose anything to the public internet it is going to be flooded by malicious bots looking for things to exploit.

I've been running VPS's since at least 2010 and this has always been the case for me, getting "scanned" all the time. Yet what I also noticed is that default installations of most modern software are not as insecure as most "cloud devs" nowadays have fearmongered us into believing. You can run your own MySQL or the likes. Or use SQLite. Use stable, secure software and use publickey auth. Look into scripts that block repeated and invalid requests. Hell, use Docker or jails to run most things.

Perhaps it's true that no one is unhackable, but that definitely doesn't mean you'll 100% get hacked within a day of running your own server.

Re: A website to destroy all websites

#396

Love the idea but it still isn’t easy enough for normies to host a blog or a website. I think there’s a way though. Modern self-hosted open source is easy to run for semi-experts, so what if communities banded together to host stuff at the local library? A bunch of enthusiastic teens could form a volunteer core that runs a bunch of services for their community and teaches anyone interested, giving kids a chance to le…

> Love the idea but it still isn’t easy enough for normies to host a blog or a website.

I have a hunch that normies are increasingly unaware of what a website is. Newer generations are growing up with apps, on their phone/tablet, some being basically "illiterate" when it comes to using a laptop/desktop beyond the top 10 webites corresponding to the apps on their phone.

Re: A website to destroy all websites

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Reading this, I kept wondering whether it would stay on the technical level or whether it would immediately start broadcasting the author’s cultural politics. It does, and the first giveaway is the kind of sentence you’ve seen a thousand times: “These days, however, we write increasing amounts of complicated, unsecure code to express less and less meaning, in order to infinitely generate shareholder value.” That line…

> treating the economic world as a gross external thing Well, a _specific_ kind of economic world in this case. Is it not a matter of fact that big tech companies largely guide how computing is used a developed, and that they are beholden to ever-expected increases in value to their shareholders? You have still have an "economic world" that doesn't operate that way.

What specific kind? The "economic world" exists in that you can work for companies with shareholders, you can work for other companies, you can work for NGOs and whatever other structures. What OP's whiney comment does is complain about the ones people like to work at because the pay is good. And his comment doesn't come from being an expert in economics (he's a programmer), it comes from vibes. Well what about aligning the vibes with the salary? Oh, no...

Re: A website to destroy all websites

#399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the article on mobile and I thought it was great. Then I looked at it on my desktop (in Chrome) and found it much harder to read. There are even images literally blocking off whole portions of certain paragraphs. It's not good.

I just re-read the entire thing. It is good. You're misrepresenting or you need to check your browser settings. No image blocks any paragraph, which even if it had, would be far more forgivable than modern web design. Do you consider any of Apple's modern product pages -- which "block off whole portions of" the page itself by scrolljacking and Clockwork-Oranging you to force you to watch their hypnotic marketing anim…

Why are you trying to gaslight me? I know what I’m seeing. In my browser (Chrome with default settings), there are certain paragraphs where the first word of every line is partially obscured. There are others where the last word of every line is obscured. It is unreadable.

Re: A website to destroy all websites

#400

The website to destroy all websites is https://gwern.net For however much I can respect individuals for showing their creativity, the novelty of it wears off. The majority of people in the Indie Web scene all blend together. The presentation might be different, but the essence is mostly the same. Not everyone needs to express themselves and voice their opinions. "Lurk five more years before posting" as people used to…

I opened that webpage and the first thing I saw was a sidebar covering the text...

I am guessing you are on mobile and are referring to the togglebar 'demo mode', illustrating its existence.

I wish we didn't have that, but we have to. That demo of the theme togglebar exists to educate users, because we found that a lot of complaints came from people who were blind to the gear icon and were unaware that the control they wanted already existed. (Which is regrettable but understandable, because almost all websites provide useless controls or visual spam, in an example of 'why we can't have nice things'.)

Obviously, it's disabled on subsequent page loads. (One of a number of parts of the UI/UX we streamline using 'demo-mode', as we try to thread the Scylla & Charybdis of a cluttered but explicit UI vs a clean newbie-unfriendly UI.)

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