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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Post by carlosjobim »

mopsi wrote: post #366
nephihaha wrote: post #323

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The EU is not more "free". There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Most of the EU does not have the same freedom of expression or religion that the USA guarantees in its founding documents. The collective cannot have freedom if the individual does not. That includes the right to disagree. The EU and USA are going down the same road. Social media is a part of this censorship of open discussi…

> There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Such as? I honestly can't think of anything. > It is unacceptable to ban homeschooling. Some children need to be homeschooled, because of disabilities, or even high intelligence. European education laws prioritize the child's right to education and social development over parental autonomy as an absolute. Mandatory schooling laws have been adopted t…

Not all European countries have banned home schooling. Not even all members of the EU.

As for neglect and abuse of children, the public schools is where you will most readily find it. Including bullying until children commit suicide. And school shootings. Which is a lesser risk at home. No matter which continent.

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Post by freefrog1234aa »

pigggg wrote: post #278
ulfw wrote: post #145

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No, not a lot as the EU has two very competitive providers in Ericsson and Nokia

They're both very expensive and the carriers primarily care about cost and features. And huawei will take a dozen devs, give them a one way ticket and put them in a hotel room near a customer to grind our whatever feature needed to seal the deal. I remember years ago talking to some EU telecom VP who was on the engineering side that said "id buy from North Korea if the price was right". We live in new times anyways -…

Yes. I worked for a Cambodian telco, when there was a range of Alcatel, Nokia, etc switching equipment across 10 carriers. Huawei swept the lot within 2 years, and Alcatel staff told me they were losing everywhere - they couldn't match the price or technology. This was before the US decided to sanction Huawei.

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Post by jenadine »

mopsi wrote: post #366
nephihaha wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU is not more "free". There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Most of the EU does not have the same freedom of expression or religion that the USA guarantees in its founding documents. The collective cannot have freedom if the individual does not. That includes the right to disagree. The EU and USA are going down the same road. Social media is a part of this censorship of open discussi…

> There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Such as? I honestly can't think of anything. > It is unacceptable to ban homeschooling. Some children need to be homeschooled, because of disabilities, or even high intelligence. European education laws prioritize the child's right to education and social development over parental autonomy as an absolute. Mandatory schooling laws have been adopted t…

> Such as?

Well, we can't say them.

(but it involves nazies, denying genocides, hate speech, and this kind of stuff. It also depends on the country)

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Post by jenadine »

anovikov wrote: post #81
kakacik wrote: post #50

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Country of Ukraine? Those suckers who bought F-35s or at least paid for them? And few other cases. Long term, I agree with you.

What's the problem with F-35s? Israel actively uses them and appears to be very happy. They provided them advantage no one platform could.

> What's the problem with F-35s?

They will not be very useful in a conflict against the US, since the US can basically disable them remotely.

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Post by tmnvix »

andsoitis wrote: post #197
nephihaha wrote: post #193

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Voter turn out is extremely low in certain central and eastern Europe for EU elections. I think it was down to under 20% in some places a few years ago. I had hoped that the UK would vote to remain and Europe would move away from a centralist, authoritarian model, but it's got worse especially since 2020. The EU is its own worst enemy.

> move away from a centralist, authoritarian model, EU is authoritarian? Why do you think that?

One definition of authoritarian is "enforcing strict obedience to authority at the expense of personal freedom".

It would seem to me that the recent spate of sanctioning individuals - e.g. for 'disseminating misinformation' without a legal definition of what that actually is would be an example of authoritarianism. A direct attack on freedom of speech and thought.

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Post by tmnvix »

mopsi wrote: post #366
nephihaha wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU is not more "free". There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Most of the EU does not have the same freedom of expression or religion that the USA guarantees in its founding documents. The collective cannot have freedom if the individual does not. That includes the right to disagree. The EU and USA are going down the same road. Social media is a part of this censorship of open discussi…

> There are a lot of things you can't say or will get shut down for. Such as? I honestly can't think of anything. > It is unacceptable to ban homeschooling. Some children need to be homeschooled, because of disabilities, or even high intelligence. European education laws prioritize the child's right to education and social development over parental autonomy as an absolute. Mandatory schooling laws have been adopted t…

> Such as? I honestly can't think of anything.

Jacques Baud, recently sanctioned by the EU for promoting conspiracy theories. https://data.europa.eu/apps/eusanctionstracker/subjects/1802...

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Post by apelapan »

fulafel wrote: post #213
apelapan wrote: post #97

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Cloud always means "somebody else's computer".

If only. But it can also mean your own computers ("private cloud").

My experience is that when people say "private cloud", they usually mean a VPC or similar that is located on somebody else's computer.

I'm sure some people use the term correctly, at least sometimes!

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Post by 8note »

nephihaha wrote: post #241
Lapel2742 wrote: post #204

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> It isn't some paradise. Compared to the USA it still is.

The EU has better healthcare and welfare overall, but fewer individual rights in other areas. Less gun crime (although this depends on region). Poverty levels vary a lot across the EU. Americans take homeschooling for granted, for better or worse, but it is banned in some European countries like Germany. Also the USA allows groups such as the Amish their liberty, which would be extremely unlikely in much of the EU wh…

the eu is better for online freedom of expression, with its GDPR regulations

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Post by 8note »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #255
saubeidl wrote: post #136

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What socialism? What are you talking about? The EU parliament has a conservative majority [0], as does the Council. [1] It's a right-wing organization. I wish there was socialism, mate. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_European_Parliament#Curr... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union#...

So this is why they give out subsidies left and right? Is this why they are working on increasing taxes? Right now in politics you can claim to be whatever you want and your policy stance to be opposite: I am on the right but I vote left wing measures.

in what was is subsidies socialism?

what ownership control does the state have over the means of production?

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