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Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by mmaunder »

solarkraft wrote: post #306
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #295

I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

> Only downsides are in the polish department What an understatement. It has me thinking „man, fuck this“ on the daily. Just today it spontaneously lost an entire 20-30 minutes long thread and it was far from the first time. It basically does it any time you interrupt it in any way. It’s straight up data loss. It’s kind of a typical Google product in that it feels more like a tech demo than a product. It has theoreti…

Yeah I eventually noped out as I said in another comment and am charging hard with Codex and am so happy about 5.2!!

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Post by noname120 »

onraglanroad wrote: post #333

I suppose this is as good a place as any to mention this. I've now met two different devs who complained about the weird responses from their LLM of choice, and it turned out they were using a single session for everything. From recipes for the night, presents for the wife and then into programming issues the next day. Don't do that. The whole context is sent on queries to the LLM, so start a new chat for each topic.…

Problem is that by default ChatGPT has the “Reference chat history” option enabled in the Memory options. This causes any previous conversation to leak into the current one. Just creating a new conversation is not enough, you also need to disable that option.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by DenisM »

Is there a voice chat mode in any chat app that is not heavily degraded in reasoning?

I’m ok waiting for a response for 10-60 seconds if needed. That way I can deep dive subjects while driving.

I’m ok paying money for it, so maybe someone coded this already?

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by LogicFailsMe »

hbarka wrote: post #357
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #295

I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

I’ve been putting literally the same inputs into both ChatGPT and Gemini and the intuition in answers from Gemini just fits for me. I’m now unwilling to just rely on ChatGPT. Google, if you can find a way to export chats into NotebookLM, that would be even better than the Projects feature of ChatGPT.

All I want for Christmas is a "No NotebookLM slop" checkbox on youtube.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by chasd00 »

onraglanroad wrote: post #333

I suppose this is as good a place as any to mention this. I've now met two different devs who complained about the weird responses from their LLM of choice, and it turned out they were using a single session for everything. From recipes for the night, presents for the wife and then into programming issues the next day. Don't do that. The whole context is sent on queries to the LLM, so start a new chat for each topic.…

I was listening to a podcast about people becoming obsessed and "in love" with an LLM like ChatGPT. Spouses were interviewed describing how mentally damaging it is to their partner and how their marriage/relationship is seriously at risk because of it. I couldn't believe no one has told these people to just goto the LLM and reset the context, that reverts the LLM back to a complete stranger. Granted that would be pretty devastating to the person in "the relationship" with the LLM since it wouldn't know them at all after that.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by piker »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #369
furyofantares wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also changed "roughly match" to "sometimes match".

Did they really change a meaningful word like that after publication without an edit note…?

Eh, I'm no shill but their marketing copy isn't exactly the New York Times. They're given some license to respond to critical feedback in a manner that makes the statements more accurate without the same expectations of being objective journalism of record.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by staticman2 »

dmd wrote: post #348
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #295

I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

I consistently have exactly the opposite experience. ChatGPT seems extremely willing to do a huge number of searches, think about them, and then kick off more searches after that thinking, think about it, etc., etc. whereas it seems like Gemini is extremely reluctant to do more than a couple of searches. ChatGPT also is willing to open up PDFs, screenshot them, OCR them and use that as input, whereas Gemini just igno…

Are you uploading PDFs that already have a text layer?

I don't currently subscribe to Gemini but on A.I. Studio's free offering when I upload a non OCR PDF of around 20 pages the software environment's OCR feeds it to the model with greater accuracy than I've seen from any other source.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by nbardy »

Those arc agi 2 improvements are insane.

Thats especially encouraging to me because those are all about generalization.

5 and 5.1 both felt overfit and would break down and be stubborn when you got them outside their lane. As opposed to Opus 4.5 which is lovely at self correcting.

It’s one of those things you really feel in the model rather than whether it can tackle a harder problem or not, but rather can I go back and forth with this thing learning and correcting together.

This whole releases is insanely optimistic for me. If they can push this much improvement WITHOUT the new huge data centers and without a new scaled base model. Thats incredibly encouraging for what comes next.

Remember the next big data center are 20-30x the chip count and 6-8x the efficiency on the new chip.

I expect they can saturate the benchmarks WITHOUT and novel research and algorithmic gains. But at this point it’s clear they’re capable of pushing research qualitatively as well.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by ponyous »

I am really curious about speed/latency. For my use case there is a big difference in UX if the model is faster. Wish this was included in some benchmarks.

I will run 80 3D model generations benchmark tomorrow and update this comment with the results about cost/speed/quality.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by irthomasthomas »

simonkagedal wrote: post #284
belter wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens if you ask for a pterodactyl on a motorbike? Would like to know how much they are optimizing for your pelican....

He commented on this here: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Nov/13/training-for-pelicans-...

I was expecting to see a pterodactyl :(
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