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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by venturecruelty »

afavour wrote: post #14

AI has driven the corporate suites of these companies insane. > As part of the agreement, Disney will make a $1 billion equity investment in OpenAI, and receive warrants to purchase additional equity. I don't know what kind of hypnosis tricks Sam Altman pulls on these people but the fact that Disney is giving money to OpenAI as part of a deal to give over the rights to its characters is absolutely baffling. OpenAI an…

OpenAI equity is worthless now. It's a company that absolutely cannot turn a profit, not with how much they're spending. And with a CEO that regularly lies about... everything (I'm sorry, you can't just spin up hundreds of gigawatts of power generation, especially not in the US, but also because the only company that makes gas turbines has a seven-year backlog).

The only people who don't think it's worthless are the people who would be worth a lot less if that were the case. Hug your loved ones and make peace with your gods, because the crash is going to be insane.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by aucisson_masque »

Hamuko wrote: post #65
afavour wrote: post #52

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Because they didn't get any money from the daycare and they will get money from OpenAI when you make your Sora video. That's all there is to it.

I have a feeling that the long-term economics of this don't really work. OpenAI is burning money and Altman has already gone out in public saying how Sora-generated content is being made in large volumes for little audience. > People are generating much more than we expected per user, and a lot of videos are being generated for very small audiences. If OpenAI is going to pay Disney money for Winnie the Pooh smoking c…

> I have a feeling that the long-term economics of this don't really work. OpenAI is burning money and Altman has already gone out in public saying how Sora-generated content is being made in large volumes for little audience.

Let me introduce you to ponze scheme. He is feeding the hype, that's all that matters right now. More and more cash... The only real winner will be Nvidia when the bubble explode.

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Post by noosphr »

Hamuko wrote: post #42
gekoxyz wrote: post #32

I never thought this could happen, especially after the "Ghibli scandal". OpenAI has pulled a majestic business move. They got to allow people to generate Disney characters without issue AND will give 1 billion dollars to OpenAI? Now the internet will be flooded by Disney character's videos, and since they don't have to pretend they didn't train on their intellectual property anymore I'm really curious to see where t…

> Now the internet will be flooded by Disney character's videos How is Disney okay with this anyway? They've sent their lawyers after daycare centers who dared to paint a picture of a Disney character on their walls. Why are they suddenly going to ignore me prompting a video of Winnie the Pooh hitting the bong?

Dysneys characters are entering the public domain, they can either cash out now or not at all.

Mickey mouse is now copyright free, pluto is in two weeks, then pretty much the whole roster by 2030 https://michelsonip.com/news/disney-characters-in-the-public...

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Post by duskwuff »

noosphr wrote: post #393
Hamuko wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Now the internet will be flooded by Disney character's videos How is Disney okay with this anyway? They've sent their lawyers after daycare centers who dared to paint a picture of a Disney character on their walls. Why are they suddenly going to ignore me prompting a video of Winnie the Pooh hitting the bong?

Dysneys characters are entering the public domain, they can either cash out now or not at all. Mickey mouse is now copyright free, pluto is in two weeks, then pretty much the whole roster by 2030 https://michelsonip.com/news/disney-characters-in-the-public...

Mickey Mouse's character design as of 1930 is in the public domain. But if you ask an AI image model for "Mickey Mouse", you'll probably get something based on more recent versions of the character which are still copyrighted.

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Post by therealpygon »

Hamuko wrote: post #42
gekoxyz wrote: post #32

I never thought this could happen, especially after the "Ghibli scandal". OpenAI has pulled a majestic business move. They got to allow people to generate Disney characters without issue AND will give 1 billion dollars to OpenAI? Now the internet will be flooded by Disney character's videos, and since they don't have to pretend they didn't train on their intellectual property anymore I'm really curious to see where t…

> Now the internet will be flooded by Disney character's videos How is Disney okay with this anyway? They've sent their lawyers after daycare centers who dared to paint a picture of a Disney character on their walls. Why are they suddenly going to ignore me prompting a video of Winnie the Pooh hitting the bong?

Disney, is well aware of the writing on the wall that copyright is going to continue to become increasingly harder to enforce, as generative ai distances itself from brute mimicry, and because infringers can generate new versions faster that takedown notices can be filed. Their alternative is to either be steamrolled, or leverage their IP while it has worth in order to latch on to the AI market. Plus, they give a solid explanation: it is free advertising when there are guardrails on how the characters can behave/say/portray (which is the advantage of the deal — I assume a similar one with Google, Microsoft or Apple will be forthcoming too).

When a true “leader” big or small emerges, every bit of capital will flock to it, leaving a burned out nest of ai company husks. But hey…maybe this time will be completely different. (And upon consideration, I think this is exactly why. All their deals are with the husks, while keeping their IP to leverage with the winner.)

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Post by npollock »

postalcoder wrote: post #12

buried the lede: > As part of the agreement, Disney will make a $1 billion equity investment in OpenAI, and receive warrants to purchase additional equity. I say this with no snark or disdain: Sam has mastered the art of the flywheel. Re licensed ai videos, if anyone wants to see the perspective the C-suites are being sold on, check out this episode of Belloni's The Town, in which they discuss the vision for AI + IP…

Disney said "Our IP is $1B for a 3yr license, or we sue"

Altman said "We can pay with equity, but let's frame it as an investment"

No cash exchanged

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Post by singpolyma3 »

throw0101d wrote: post #292
afavour wrote: post #233

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When I became a parent I was really surprised at how much crap Disney puts out. My previous exposure had just been their blockbuster movies which showed a close attention to detail. But you scratch under the surface and it's an endless pile of awful quality clothing, crappy lunchboxes, that kind of thing. To the point where you assume it's an unauthorized rip off until you discover they license to anyone. And to say…

> And to say nothing of the shoddy quality of their TV shows. Mickey Mouse Clubhouse's lazy CG animation and unimaginative storytelling is shocking given Mickey is supposed to be their signature character. ≤4-year-olds do not care: there's bright colours and motion, and some semblance of story. The point is not to give some kind of lesson, but to distract/entertain (and probably release dopamine). See also Paw Patrol…

This is because parents don't watch with their kids anymore, just hand over the tablet.

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Post by irishcoffee »

postalcoder wrote: post #218
irishcoffee wrote: post #206

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Pat Mcafee catching strays (He has had his show for ~6 years) but Screamin' A Smith gets a pass? Your bias is showing.

Stephen A Smith has done as much to harm ESPN's brand than any other figure. Please don't assume my biases from whom I failed to mention – I could have used SAS instead of Pat and my point would have been the same. Perhaps I should have expected that the conversation would get pulled this way but it's not where I wanted it to go.

Sorry, my point was SAS has been on the network for at least what, 15 years? And he isn’t knowledgeable about anything but the NBA.

PM is probably the nicest guy on the network. I get why people hate him, but rarely does he talk shit about people.

If anything, SAS paved the way for PM.

That was why I said you’re biased. Or you just don’t know the network very well.

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Post by luckydata »

gekoxyz wrote: post #32

I never thought this could happen, especially after the "Ghibli scandal". OpenAI has pulled a majestic business move. They got to allow people to generate Disney characters without issue AND will give 1 billion dollars to OpenAI? Now the internet will be flooded by Disney character's videos, and since they don't have to pretend they didn't train on their intellectual property anymore I'm really curious to see where t…

IMHO the smart people saw the "Ghibli scandal" and thought "omg this is the feature of IP".

You don't like the last Star Wars trilogy? Pay us a few hundred dollars and you can rewrite your own story, thank you very much this is where you put the credit card number.

It was INEVITABLE.

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Post by LetsGetTechnicl »

Octoth0rpe wrote: post #46
monkaiju wrote: post #24

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It might have required a GoT level budget to make, but it wont look as good a GoT. Just a few days ago McDonalds learned that (again) in the Netherlands

I think 90% of the McDonald's backlash was specifically related to the tone/content of the ad (anti-holiday, you're better off in McDonald's _than with your family_!), not the actual quality of the video.

I don't know, the ad also looks like shit
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