What’s the severance package at Amazon like? Standard 3 mo w/ insurance during that period? Do they accelerate vesting schedule? Any AMZN drones care to chime in?
Think bare minimum.
Amazon confirms 14,000 job losses in corporate division
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#392Q3 results [PDF]: https://s2.q4cdn.com/299287126/files/doc_financials/2025/q2/... Numbers are all in the black and up year over year and compared to previous quarter. Double digit revenue growth in both retail and AWS. Often I wonder whether corporate leaders took any kind of logic class in college or if they just have a fetish for harming people for no reason. Either that or whatever business school they went to bel…
That's Q2. Q3 will be announced day after tomorrow. This announcement might mean they are not doing that well (compared to expectations).
Typo, sorry.
I’d bet $5 that Q3 is profitable with similar growth.
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#393Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's wild that you can legally work for a company, spend your limited life's time to build a part of it while not owning even a tiny bit of it (getting paid for unit of time - a finite resource) and then just get fired once you are not longer useful and that's the end of your income from the thing you built for you. All the while people who own it don't have to perform any kind of work and keep getting paid in perpet…
Correct, owning the business will almost always be a better financial deal than working for the business.
Which business? The majority of businesses fail and never turn a profit. A success like Amazon is the exception, not the rule.
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#394Earlier quoted context omitted.
GP obviously meant passive tone, not passive noun-verb relationship.
Still puts them in a weak position to critique others on their use of words. We might like to hold the BBC to a higher standard but none of the big news sites are good at details like this.
True, I did make a mistake, but in my defense I’m but one person making a passing comment in an internet forum. Even then, if I had noticed my error before the edit window (which I do not control) expired, I would have issued a correction.
The BBC, on the other hand, is a major organisation employing professional writers and editors. It’s their job to inform clearly, not throw mud in people’s faces with the kind of indirect wording used to conceal intentions.
The situations are not in the same category. I made a mistake in word usage; the article’s title is manipulating meaning, using public relations-style words carefully chosen for the goal of minimising backlash.
Furthermore, I don’t think you need to be perfect to point out imperfection. It is perfectly valid to go to a restaurant and say “this pizza tastes bad” even if you don’t know how to cook.
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#395Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rather, a correction for over hiring during periods of low-interest rates and excessive money printed which promoted & rewarded hiring just to be compretitive
> correction for over hiring during periods of low-interest rates It's been three years since that though, and five years since covid. That's why we say "AI" now. Just make sure you don't say "executive incompetence".
I don't think it's incompetence, I think it's planned, merciless strategy. It costs nearly nothing to fire a ton of people, so why not hire a bunch with free money and dump them as soon as the free money disappears
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#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
It has been and it is. Both US and China have successfully created a Leviathan albeit if different form. EU is way behind and that’s why it’s losing.
The EU did it too, probably second with the US being last. It’s just that the EU focused on worker’s rights, protections for origins of products (can’t call bubbly wine Champaign if it’s not from there), etc.
To compete with other Leviathan unfortunately you have to become one too. It’s just for survival.
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#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
Passive vs. active voice. "Job losses" is chickenshit language. If you're going to fire people, at least have the integrity to own your actions, instead of trying to make it sound like something that "just happened".
> Passive vs. active voice. "Job losses" is chickenshit language. "Job losses" isn't passive voice. "Jobs were lost" would be passive voice. Why are people so hung up on "job losses", as if we don't hear this every day? Who cares?
You're being pedantic for no good reason. You know what I meant.
If you don't care about this conversation, why are you participating?
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#398Once a company moves on to recurring, large-scale layoffs justified by vague corporate Mumbo-Jumbo, I think it is safe to assume it is a "day 2" company.
I'm not really sure how this fits with Amazon's corporate culture. I thought all of the dead wood good pip'ed out of there on an ongoing basis. If people are surviving that then who are are the people being ejected? Unprofitable areas or new products which didn't pan out?
First employees work for the customer, then they work for the company, then they work for themselves. Sounds like Amazon is between the 2nd and 3rd stage.
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#399From the article, Amazon has 1.5 million employees across offices and warehouses. With about 350,000 corporate employees in executive, managerial and sales. So that’s about 4% of the non-warehouse staff. What’s their normal staff turnover rate per year? I wonder if it’s another staff reduction (cos we over hired and want to remove people who didn’t impress) under the cover of improving business productivity using AI…
It’s actually not warehouses. It’s groceries. Amazon jumped from a few hundred thousand to 1mm+ with the acquisition of Whole Foods. The corporate jobs is inclusive of engineering and aws. They do an annual “top grading” layoff that’s variable in size from 5% to 10% which are performance based. There is obviously attrition as well. This leads to a constant hiring flow as these are typically backfilled. These layoffs…
well, one reason people might stay is they are on a visa and the government has a nice corporate friendly visa system in this country.
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#400I worked at AOL back when they did quarterly "staff reductions". They would go and hire lots of them right back; it was an accounting trick. Never mind the fact that families were affected and employees were constantly stressed near the end of every quarter. Those things don't matter, quarterly numbers do when growth has stalled.
Classic Bluth Company "Black Friday" move: https://arresteddevelopment.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Friday