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Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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Post by dangus »

gilfoy wrote: post #379

I commented on a similar post earlier, but my entire neighborhood, hundreds of houses, came with them preinstalled. Can’t even leave my house without being surveilled. Some people have the setting on where it starts announcing stuff any time it sees a person, which it does all the way to the sidewalk. So you go on a walk and get yelled at through a super shitty speaker several times. And it’s about as dystopian as yo…

Honestly, these cameras don’t solve anything or provide any real utility and essentially represent a waste of money and resources.

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Post by nik282000 »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #386

I'm willing to bet $$$ anyone will be able to call themselves a 'local security agency' before proper controls are implemented.

Likely a form followed by a "Do you promise you didn't lie" checkbox at the bottom is all that will separate a user from access.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

hypeatei wrote: post #390
gilfoy wrote: post #379

I commented on a similar post earlier, but my entire neighborhood, hundreds of houses, came with them preinstalled. Can’t even leave my house without being surveilled. Some people have the setting on where it starts announcing stuff any time it sees a person, which it does all the way to the sidewalk. So you go on a walk and get yelled at through a super shitty speaker several times. And it’s about as dystopian as yo…

> came with them preinstalled That's concerning. Now we have to worry about spyware coming pre installed on houses. I wonder how much the developers got paid to install those?

I doubt the developer was paid, although I bet they get the hardware for free.

The data shows people like video doorbell. If the developer has to install a dumb one, then they would benefit by installing video doorbells.

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Post by rogerrogerr »

nik282000 wrote: post #389

One of the many reasons to host your own stuff. It costs about 0.75CAD per day to run my server and PoE switch. For my 20 bucks a month I get cameras, a media server, password manager, push notifications, file sharing, and a dozen other services, all without handing my data over to business or governments. Is it as secure as a cloud service? Depends on what you consider secure. I closely monitor access logs and use s…

I fear ISPs have made a commercial host-it-yourself product near impossible. Imagine selling a product, getting no ongoing revenue, and then being on the hook - forever - to support average people trying to connect to something inside their home network from their phone. Nightmare material.

If anyone is having trouble understanding the support load, start by traveling to your local assisted living home and explaining to everyone static vs. dynamic IP address assignment.

You can do it fairly easily by bouncing off a server you control... aaaand we're right back where we started.

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Post by vkou »

nik282000 wrote: post #389

One of the many reasons to host your own stuff. It costs about 0.75CAD per day to run my server and PoE switch. For my 20 bucks a month I get cameras, a media server, password manager, push notifications, file sharing, and a dozen other services, all without handing my data over to business or governments. Is it as secure as a cloud service? Depends on what you consider secure. I closely monitor access logs and use s…

> One of the many reasons to host your own stuff.

This doesn't solve the primary problem of your neighbours turning your country into a surveillance state.

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Post by nik282000 »

gleenn wrote: post #384
gilfoy wrote: post #379

I commented on a similar post earlier, but my entire neighborhood, hundreds of houses, came with them preinstalled. Can’t even leave my house without being surveilled. Some people have the setting on where it starts announcing stuff any time it sees a person, which it does all the way to the sidewalk. So you go on a walk and get yelled at through a super shitty speaker several times. And it’s about as dystopian as yo…

The police chumminess is super dystopian. I definitely went with E2E encrypted cameras because I also think it's so crazy people just hand all that data over without realizing how powerful it is and how much personal privacy they are throwing out the window.

E2E encryption but what are the ends? If one is your camera and the other is a cloud service then you aren't really protecting anything.

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hypeatei wrote: post #390
gilfoy wrote: post #379

I commented on a similar post earlier, but my entire neighborhood, hundreds of houses, came with them preinstalled. Can’t even leave my house without being surveilled. Some people have the setting on where it starts announcing stuff any time it sees a person, which it does all the way to the sidewalk. So you go on a walk and get yelled at through a super shitty speaker several times. And it’s about as dystopian as yo…

> came with them preinstalled That's concerning. Now we have to worry about spyware coming pre installed on houses. I wonder how much the developers got paid to install those?

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