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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by aldebran »

OptionOfT wrote: post #223
aldebran wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN seems to think PMs have a lot more power at Microsoft or large corps than they actually do. I assure you, a bunch of this stuff just comes top down because some VP's million dollar bonus rides on it.

The mandate to implement these kind of pop-ups doesn't come from above. The mandate to identify ways to increase profit comes from above, and it is the PMs (through marketing/research/developers) that come up with ways to satisfy these requirements. And failure to meet these requirements means a bad review and a chance of being laid off.

Bro I worked in the windows team. I’m telling you how it was.

Trust the HN crowd to know.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by type0 »

mrandish wrote: post #167

What makes this even worse is that MSFT doesn't just do it with their "free", subsidized or bundled versions. They also do it to users who are using the full paid versions of the OS and Office. I paid an extra hundred dollars to get Windows Pro pre-installed on my laptop and a key reason I did so was to avoid this crap. But they still have all the same upsells and dark patterns. All Windows Pro gives me is the very c…

They do change the settings to opt you in and move them around after updates, it's such a cat and mouse game, but the user is the mouse

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by n4bz0r »

queenkjuul wrote: post #226
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #191

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As usual, user are not making them paying the price for being badly treated. Software companies do this because they can get away with it, that's it. Even on HN many people can't be arse to use Firefox, how could we expect anyone to avoid giants like Microsoft?

Sadly Firefox has been utter garbage for me the last few months, routinely hangs for me on 3 different machines across two different OSes. Running out of options these days

Sounds like an extension acting up. Haven't noticed any issues on my devices.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by someuser2345 »

j1elo wrote: post #13
hedora wrote: post #4

This stuff is increasingly normalized across platforms. I'd say "vote with your wallet", but when all the tech platforms are doing it, there's not much choice. PCs / laptops are probably the last hold out: Just switch to Linux (but be careful which distro you pick) or MacOS (for now). The political pendulum is going to swing far left in the US given the disasters that are playing out in DC. Hopefully this sort of cra…

IMHO Linux Mint keeps being the strongest option to recommend when the intention is a clean transition with the least amount of fiddling. It just works, it is reliable, and it doesn't play games with changes of basic technologies that can only cause confusion (e.g. none of the Ubuntu shenanigans like their confusing desktop or their non-Debian packaging)

I can't agree about the "it just works" part. About a year ago I build a new PC, and I tried installing Mint on it. I ran into two issues that I was never able to resolve:

1. The WiFi just would not work; I couldn't see any networks. 2. I have 2 monitors, and one monitor would display 80% of one screen, and 20% of the other. I suspect that it was because the monitors had different refresh rates and resolutions.

I then tried installing Windows, and everything did just work.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by NoPicklez »

rootusrootus wrote: post #234
Podrod wrote: post #36

I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled. There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes…

I've been a Mac & Linux user since about 2007 or so, and I had no idea what Windows had become. Then a couple weeks ago I caved and built my son a Windows gaming PC. Egads, Windows is annoying! Even more so than I remember! I'm amazed that people actually put up with it for their daily driver. Right on schedule, my son came to me yesterday evening and asked what he should do about the backup warning. It didn't give a…

> I'm amazed people actually put up with it for their daily driver

Bit of an overreaction, the majority of the world is on Windows (I use both as my daily). I'm sure as a Mac user you remember the days around 2007 where there were a lot of compatibility issues on Mac, it has come along way.

Your annoyance with Windows is likely due to what I see a lot of which is simply that the operation system works and does things differently, which requires you to do things in a way you might not be familiar with. We use operating systems almost instinctively once we're familiar, jumping to another OS is going to rock your boat.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by DaveZale »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #147
DaveZale wrote: post #34

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see what Neil Young has been saying about getting big corporations out of our lives. They skillfully buy out potential competitors and kill them to keep their monopolies.

What he has to say would have been a lot more believable before he sold half his back catalog to a hedge fund. Queue the McDonalds commericial that includes "keep me searching for an arch of gold"...

interesting. Old age has a way of bringing huge regrets sometimes, perhaps?

Of course, a lot of music stars sold out for one reason or another. tbh

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by wkat4242 »

NoPicklez wrote: post #395
rootusrootus wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been a Mac & Linux user since about 2007 or so, and I had no idea what Windows had become. Then a couple weeks ago I caved and built my son a Windows gaming PC. Egads, Windows is annoying! Even more so than I remember! I'm amazed that people actually put up with it for their daily driver. Right on schedule, my son came to me yesterday evening and asked what he should do about the backup warning. It didn't give a…

> I'm amazed people actually put up with it for their daily driver Bit of an overreaction, the majority of the world is on Windows (I use both as my daily). I'm sure as a Mac user you remember the days around 2007 where there were a lot of compatibility issues on Mac, it has come along way. Your annoyance with Windows is likely due to what I see a lot of which is simply that the operation system works and does things…

I used all three every day for years. Until I dropped Mac because I got sick of apple's opinionated design. Linux with KDE of course because gnome is even worse than Apple.

That kinda solved the only big issue I had switching OSes constantly, the copy paste shortcuts. Apple is command-c/v and if you constantly switch you never get used to it.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by tomrod »

the__alchemist wrote: post #269
bee_rider wrote: post #100

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The Open Source ecosystem is a bit weird in that your system can be as reliable or not as you want, depending on what projects you follow. It really truly is a mixed bag in the sense that you can actually have a solid setup if you are happy with it being boring.

> The Open Source ecosystem is a bit weird in that your system can be as reliable or not as you want I'm going to dig into this a little. This feels like shifting responsibility onto the user when things don't go well. E.g. comparing the platonic ideal of Linux when analyzing practical options. I make lots of mistakes in all aspects of my life. I know historically, and projecting into the future that I will get into…

A computer is a tool. Linux respects this, Apple and Windows try to monetize it. The tool user is responsible for choice and maintenance of the tool.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by mardifoufs »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #48

Hope the PM in charge with the scammy copy designed to trick people into turning this on is happy with the boost in free users falling for it. My dad turned it on not knowing what it meant and it completely messed up his workflows and now I have to figure out how to safely disable it and move his files back. I will remember Microsoft causing this problem for him every time I think of or get asked if someone should us…

Yeah, the tech sector's understanding of the notion of consent is so unique and twisted. It makes sense now that the industry has the reputation that it has w.r.t misconduct/harrassment and how it's generally seen as being filled with creeps. Just keep asking until the user slips up or gets tired of the endless prompts/manual work required.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by NoPicklez »

badsectoracula wrote: post #12

May i suggest some solutions? :-P -> https://endof10.org/ (it has a map with people who can help install Linux) -> https://www.opensuse.org/ (what i'm using on my PCs, works fine for the most part[0]) -> https://www.linuxmint.com/ (people seem to like this) -> https://bazzite.gg/ (seems to be popular with gamers) -> https://www.debian.org/ (almost everything is based on this :-P) [0] for the most part because nothing…

Throwing out 5 different operating systems based on the same thing doesn't seem like a solution, but more of a "here are some other poisons to try".
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