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Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Is there any other real world usecases for VPN nowadays other than: 1. Getting access to geolocked data 2. Torrenting "Linux ISOs" ?

Testing your app/website when it has different behaviour depending on locale

Real, but pretty minimal usage.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Sharing corporate info with your employees and not everyone else. You know, the "go to work" thing some people do.

Just because something is called with the same name, doesn't mean it's the same thing. Especially if the naming is done on a product by a company that wants to sell the product, and especially if the name is not a protected trademark. Express VPN, NordVPN and Surfshark belong to another category of software than the VPNs used by companies. Some differences are: 1- One is used by consumers, the other is used by busine…

1- If we both use a hammer, and you use it for business while I use it for DIY, the tool is still the same thing.

2- The hammer doesn't care where the nail is; local carpentry or third-party furniture still require the same tool.

3- Both sides of the VPN are encrypted to each other, and anonymous to anyone else. No difference that I can see.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_electronic_device... > the attack killed 42 people, including 12 civilians, and injured 4,000 civilians

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Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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> most of Lithuania's restrictions have been very common-sense (applying only to people who frequently travel between Russia and Lithuania). Common-sense like a complete ban for entering the country for red passport holders. Lithuania is a wonderful, beautiful country and I understand the need to push the hardliner stance in the EU, but their decisions during the conflict have been strictly political, not in the slig…

Isn't Lithuanian passport red ? or the context here is communism ?

Turns out it's indeed red, but it's been green for a long time.

Context here is Russian Federation.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Thanks for the link. How does this work on the server side? It gets packets on 8080 and then what? The article needs to explain the server config, even if it is just how to install ssh-server. I have tried setting up OpenVPN on my own VPS and I didn't get very far with it. I have also had to use OpenVPN in the day job and I much prefer just using ssh without some extravagant OpenVPN layer. My experience of failing to…

it's very easy to setup your own VPN on your own server. I'm using AWS Lightsail because of virtually unlimited bandwidth and the locations I like, but any VPS would work well. I used to have my own scripts but I found this lately which is doing this much better than what I was doing https://github.com/angristan/wireguard-install The only advantage of professional VPN is the ability to use obfuscation, so to bypass V…

That is brilliant, many thanks for that and the Lightsail suggestion. Now I just need a legitimate use case, which will probably be a locked down origin server with even more security than what I had before with ssh things.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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I only ever use a VPN to access region blocked content and the occasional "linux iso" torrent..I tried Mullvad first, but they just don't play the game of cat and mouse with the streaming providers and all their IPs are pretty much blocked. I have about a 95% success rate with NordVPN (except for Amazon Prime video which have some sort of wizardry and always are able to detect VPNs). It's a shame because Mullvad has…

But you can connect any machine to any vpn and have it be a tailscale exit node?

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Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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1. example.com is not on the HSTS preload list 2. Because you normally visit example.com using an incognito window, your browser hasn't cached the redirect to SSL, or the address bar suggestion, and you haven't bookmarked the site. 3. You key in example.com, the browser connects over http, and the evil wifi MITMs your unencrypted connection - removing the redirect to SSL and messing with the page however the evildoer…

You connect to an access point, and your browser/OS tries to open one of http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html , http://www.msftconnecttest.com/connecttest.txt , http://connectivitycheck.gstatic.com/generate_204 , https://captive.apple.com/hotspot-detect.html and loads/displays whatever unencrypted web page is served. Getting someone to open an unencrypted webpage is almost trivial. It's often one of the onl…

The problem isn't getting you to open a page, it's putting that page behind a known legitimate URL.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Are we allowed to discuss (edit: if it's not too political?) if Kape Technologies has any connections to Israeli security services, given the nature of VPNs and given the amount of data that can be trivially collected, and: "Being from Israel, Teddy Sagi had connections with the Israeli military intelligence sphere and was able to procure himself a real-life cyber spy [his co-founder] from the famed Unit 8200 (kinda…

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45496427

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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1. example.com is not on the HSTS preload list 2. Because you normally visit example.com using an incognito window, your browser hasn't cached the redirect to SSL, or the address bar suggestion, and you haven't bookmarked the site. 3. You key in example.com, the browser connects over http, and the evil wifi MITMs your unencrypted connection - removing the redirect to SSL and messing with the page however the evildoer…

"Obviously a VPN provider can also do this, but you might hope they're less likely to." So you have identified some marginal privacy issue, and have identified that a VPN doesn't solve it, but rather that it moves the risk to a third party actor you subjectively feel is better. Well I feel that, subjectively, introducing a third party generally decreases security. I believe that not all privacy and security considera…

Using a VPN means you have to trust one company instead of every wifi you connect to, and also makes that an entity that's an expert at privacy instead of working off a half-forgotten router in the back.

How is any of this "medicine becoming the poison" or "schizophrenic"?

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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We should really be moving towards a world of Multi-Party Relays rather than Single-Party VPN operators: https://www.privacyguides.org/articles/2024/11/17/where-are-... With Multi-Party Relays you no longer have a trust a single entity not being malicious or compromised. Disclaimer: I run obscura.net, which does exactly this with Mullvad (our partner) as the Exit Hop.

Hey, This is is what i wrote my master thesis on. I ended up not turning it into something proper. Thank you! i love that you did this! Its awesome! OMG good job!

Ah that's excellent! Do you have a link to the thesis?
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