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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by pixl97 »

parsimo2010 wrote: post #88

I don’t know about the UK, but in the USA the idea of “if you don’t want to be in photos published online, don’t be in public spaces” is pretty regularly upheld in courts. You don’t have an expectation of privacy in a public space. You might have some recourse if another person’s video singles you out, but just being one of the several people in an airsoft video, where your face is partially obscured anyway, isn’t mu…

Yea, and in this case unless the property owner says no filming said person would have no legs to stand on.

In most 'fun' events like this with random members of the public said venue has a monetary interest in ensuring people can film in the vast majority of the cases. People go there to have fun, and sharing videos of said fun is but one more way to ensure they get future customers.

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Post by justusthane »

handoflixue wrote: post #263
s1mplicissimus wrote: post #243

I always wondered: who is picking up all that plastic waste afterwards? Never been myself, but I was told 1000s of shots being fired during one session is not an exceptional case. The author talks about "Running around in the woods" so I'm a bit concerned that this may cause undesirable amounts of environmental pollution.

It's being done on private property, so presumably the property owner is okay with that damage?

That plastic is still going to be there thousands of years after the property passes out of the current owner’s hands.

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Post by iamnothere »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #187
squigz wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're looking for a generic reason, I think, and there isn't and doesn't need to be one other than "people can desire their privacy for various reasons" Maybe publicizing where someone is every week lets criminals plan their crimes. Maybe it gives away someone's location to an abusive ex or family member or stalker. Maybe people just don't want Google and the like to have even more data about our whereabouts and act…

These are all nice concrete consequences, but I’m not sure having public images meaningfully exacerbates them. >robbers Why would a criminal take time to comb through random, anonymous, uncategorized images of people to ambiguously identify someone who might not be home (and might not even have a house worth breaking into), when it’s much easier to just stake out wealthy neighborhoods and definitively see who’s not h…

> So said stalker would have to run facial recognition software on every image on the internet to find the handful that might incidentally contain their victim?

Stalkers often have knowledge of the victim’s friends and associates and have no problem combing through their social media looking for photos.

> Someone that determined would just hire or use the methods of a PI, which have long been effective at finding people who don’t want to be found.

PIs will not do work for people without a legitimate purpose, as they could lose their license. Stalkers with ill intent will also be leaving a paper trail if they hire a PI. And non-PIs may be able to use some PI methods, but they won’t be able to access the full range of PI tools or PI relationships.

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Post by philwelch »

jen729w wrote: post #11

I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

> Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on?

Either that or, if you can’t get a model release, make sure to blur their face in editing. This used to be standard practice.

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Post by ecshafer »

jen729w wrote: post #11

I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

> I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on?

This seems reasonable to me. If its airsoft, how many people are involved? 10? 20? Just go around and ask people if they will allow you to post video of the game with them in it.

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Post by gameman144 »

Aurornis wrote: post #375
jen729w wrote: post #11

I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

> I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? I find it interesting how the winds have changed on this topic. 5-10 years ago it was a hot topic in online tech spaces (HN, Reddit, Slashdot and adjacent sites) about preserving your rights to take photos and videos in public spaces. I can understand some people preferring not to b…

I don't think the author was arguing at all that these things should be illegal, more just that there should be more consideration of other people's preferences where possible.

It's also legal to play an annoying song on repeat all day on a quiet hiking trail, but people (rightfully) recognize that as improper socially.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

bravura wrote: post #219
jen729w wrote: post #11

I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

As an American living in Europe, I have seen Europe do "no cameras by default" quite successfully.

Are dash cams / bicycle cams not ubiquitous in Europe by now?

I would have thought they would be very useful for adjudicating high cost events such as automobile collisions, or even police interactions.

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