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Top Programming Languages 2025

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Re: Top Programming Languages 2025

#391
Python at number 1 makes me cringe... In my experience, Python is not a language that I would use for anything other than a script or some solo PoC. I would absolutely never use it on code expected to exceed 1000 lines, code that's maintained by more than one person, or code that takes more than a few seconds to run. Python has a lot of great libraries as a result of it being the language of choice to teach non software engineers at university. A lot of smart people contribute to the ecosystem, but I wish they would focus their efforts elsewhere. Preferably pick any complied, strongly typed, static language that supports multi-threading.

Re: Top Programming Languages 2025

#392

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It's a weird one - I've been at Google for more than 5 years. I know from the stats that we have a zillion lines of actively developed Java, there must be huge swathes of the company that you could even call a "Java shop". I dig into random bits of code all the time. And yet I've looked at Java maybe three times in my tenure. And if I needed to submit Java code, I would not have a single contact to ping for readabili…

What products do you work on and what language?

I work on stuff that's adjacent to system software (I'm actually mostly a kernel engineer). But I've touched code in all the major languages at Google: loads of C++ and Go, much less of Python and Typescript. But Java/Kotlin is the only one I've never touched at all.

Re: Top Programming Languages 2025

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> There are more people writing PHP and Ruby than HTML? Intuitevely I'd say yes. In most jobs I've been in, the ratio of backend/system devs to front end devs has been from 3:1 to 20:1 depending on the size. Provided I'm on the backend side and would choose companies accordingly, but still. Even for web first services, there will be a flurry of people who won't touch a line of html/rendering.

But how much PHP code does exist, which does not also produce HTML? I think that's the whole point of most PHP code.

Probably very little. Its either json or html. Most PHP oit there is actually wordpress.

Re: Top Programming Languages 2025

#399

> AI assistance means that programmers can concern themselves less and less with the particulars of any language. Sure. Until we need to. Then we face some apparently tiny concern, which is actually deeply intricated with the rest of this whole mess, and we are ready for a ride in the rabbit hole. > most developers today don’t pay much attention to the instruction sets and other hardware idiosyncrasies of the CPUs th…

Take into account that this is posted on IEEE. In my opinion, their target audience are scientists rather than programmers, and a scientist most often think of code as a tool to express his ideas (hence, perfect AI generated code is kind of a graal). The faster he can express them, even if the code is ugly, the better. He does not care to reuse the code later most of the time. I have the hint that scientists and not…

If code is actually viewed as a tool to express ideas, making it easy to read and figure out should be a goal.

Re: Top Programming Languages 2025

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Yeah except job adverts have enormous lag behind what's actually popular. For example we used Rust quite a lot at my previous company but we didn't advertise for Rust developers at all. Also then you're looking at which languages were popular in the past whereas the interesting stat is which languages are being used to start new projects.

> we used Rust quite a lot at my previous company but we didn't advertise for Rust developers at all. How did you find Rust developers when you needed to hire?

Existing C++ developers learned Rust.
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