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AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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Efficiency rules all. It just doesn't make sense to pay someone $10 when you can pay someone else $2

And when we're all out of work except for the doctors and nurses, electricians and plumbers, there will be nobody to contribute to consumer spending. And we will suffer, at the hand of the government that assisted in this scam.

If the predictions of someone are correct, AI is going to hit everyone, including the doctors, nurses, and plumbers and electricians

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ChatGPT (might have) made a few superfluous email jobs obsolete and the people responding to this comment are acting like we’re standing on the threshold of Terminator 3.

Don't underestimate how much of the economy is "superfluous email jobs". Have you seen how stupid the average person is?[0] These people need jobs too. [0] I was going to going to mark this as sarcasm but then I remembered that the US elected Donald Trump as president, 2 times so far, so I'm going to play it straight.

so instead of training and educate this people, you want them to keep that "obsolete" job????

a little bit late aren't we??? because if we do that, then we would still use postman to send message

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Organizations are choosing to eliminate workers rather than amplify them with AI because they'd rather own 100% of diminished capacity than share proceeds from exponentially increased capacity. That's the rent extraction model consuming its own productive infrastructure. The Stanford study documents organizations systematically choosing inferior economic strategies because their rent-extraction frameworks cannot conc…

Probably because there are no free markets anymore, it's all monopoly, cartel, and/or regulatory capture.

Competition would fix a whole lot of problems.

Re: AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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AI is the popular cover excuse for layoffs. I can’t think of a single job that modern AI could easily replace.

It doesn't have to replace people on a one-for-one basis to cause job losses. Let's say LLMs make your developers 50% more efficient. Doesn't it stand to reason you can lay off the lowest performing 33% and get the same amount (or more) of work?

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Lots of people are sceptical but I cannot imagine a use for entry level positions anymore. At my work everybody got to calling AI "the intern", which is not confusing because we do not have and have no use for interns.

Traditionally, interns exist as a well-vetted and well-shaped supply of labor (which is very difficult to find through the traditional hiring process). The work they complete is secondary. Are companies going to stop needing good employees? Is nobody going to need to work in 40 years when all the current employees are phased out?

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Organizations are choosing to eliminate workers rather than amplify them with AI because they'd rather own 100% of diminished capacity than share proceeds from exponentially increased capacity. That's the rent extraction model consuming its own productive infrastructure. The Stanford study documents organizations systematically choosing inferior economic strategies because their rent-extraction frameworks cannot conc…

> So what comes next? Feudalism.

That's optimistic.

Ancient egypt (elite in pyramids, slaves otherwise) is more likely.

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As some have said, it's not about being superior. Common language, background, maybe overlaps in education, and avoiding cultures like those at Indian offshore companies where there is a lot of churn, maybe 1 Sr person you "hired" really farming the work out to multiple Jr people. Timezone overlap is also a big one.

I agree with what you've written, but I've worked with colleagues in South America and Eastern Europe where none of those problems existed: folks spoke perfect English, people were incredibly motivated to do a good job, and they spoke up proactively when problems arose. I have had issues with Indian outsourcers like you say (lots of churn, time zone hell, a culture of pretending everything is fine until release day a…

My intuition says there are some stylistic differences. It seems like some development cultures somewhat have better results with more rigid computer engineering sort of tasks with high granularity requirements and more straightforward goals, even if the tasks are really hard, deeply technical and the goals are difficult. I think some are better at the more nebulous sort of tasks with a lot of flexibility. Both are really useful mindsets that seem much less useful if improperly applied.

Given, outsourcing is probably going to be hit-or-miss regardless of who’s doing it.

Re: AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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AI is the popular cover excuse for layoffs. I can’t think of a single job that modern AI could easily replace.

Video and graphical designers? I’m not saying this with optimism, but rather as as observation.

I know a handful of digital marketers, that work for different marketing firms - and the use of GenAI for those tasks have exploded. Usually tasks which they either had in-house people, or freelancers do the work.

Now they just do it themselves.

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But how do they know it's AI and not, say, other economy-related issues? Just the other day there was a report that companies are not adopting AI because they don't know about it... and now suddenly, so many are using AI that it causes 13% decline in jobs?

Read the paper and find out!

Re: AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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> So what comes next? Feudalism.

That's optimistic. Ancient egypt (elite in pyramids, slaves otherwise) is more likely.

>> Feudalism.

> That's optimistic.

> Ancient egypt (elite in pyramids, slaves otherwise) is more likely.

No you're both being optimistic. The feudal lords had a vital need for serfs, and the pharaohs slaves.

It'll be more like elite in pyramids, everyone else (who survives) lives like a rat in the sewers, living off garbage and trying to stay out of sight. Once the elite no longer need workers like us, they'll withdraw the resources they need to live comfortably, or to even live at all. They're not making more land, and the capitalist elite have "better" uses for energy than heating your home and powering your shit.

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