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Re: GPT-5

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Post by caconym_ »

makin wrote: post #344
highfrequency wrote: post #331

It is frequently suggested that once one of the AI companies reaches an AGI threshold, they will take off ahead of the rest. It's interesting to note that at least so far, the trend has been the opposite: as time goes on and the models get better, the performance of the different company's gets clustered closer together. Right now GPT-5, Claude Opus, Grok 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro all seem quite good across the board (ie the…

Companies are collections of people, and these companies keep losing key developers to the others, I think this is why the clusters happen. OpenAI is now resorting to giving million dollar bonuses to every employee just to try to keep them long term.

If there was any indication of a hard takeoff being even slightly imminent, I really don't think key employees of the company where that was happening would be jumping ship. The amounts of money flying around are direct evidence of how desperate everybody involved is to be in the right place when (so they imagine) that takeoff happens.

Re: GPT-5

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Post by LeoPanthera »

surround wrote: post #297

GPT-5 knowledge cutoff: Sep 30, 2024 (10 months before release). Compare that to Gemini 2.5 Pro knowledge cutoff: Jan 2025 (3 months before release) Claude Opus 4.1: knowledge cutoff: Mar 2025 (4 months before release) https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/compare https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/pro/ https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/models/overv...

Gemini does cursory web searches for almost every query, presumably to fill in the gap between the knowledge cutoff and now.

Re: GPT-5

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Post by pawelduda »

atonse wrote: post #2

For day to day coding, I've found Anthropic to be killing it with Sonnet 3.7 and now Sonnet 4, and Claude Code feeling like it has even bigger advantages over when it's used in Cursor (And I can't explain why). I don't even try to use the OpenAI models because it's felt like night and day. Hopefully GPT-5 helps them catch up. Although I'm sure there are 100 people that have their own personal "hopefully GPT-5 fixes m…

Yup, Claude has been kicking GPT's ass for months now

Re: GPT-5

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Post by sethops1 »

v5v3 wrote: post #251

The live stream just has Altman interviewing a lady who was diagnosed 3 different cancers. GPT4 gave her better response than doctors she said.

WebMD will diagnose me with cancer 3 times a day.

Re: GPT-5

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Post by lurking_swe »

surround wrote: post #297

GPT-5 knowledge cutoff: Sep 30, 2024 (10 months before release). Compare that to Gemini 2.5 Pro knowledge cutoff: Jan 2025 (3 months before release) Claude Opus 4.1: knowledge cutoff: Mar 2025 (4 months before release) https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/compare https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/pro/ https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/models/overv...

the model can do web search so this is mostly irrelevant i think.

Re: GPT-5

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Post by [deleted] »

levocardia wrote: post #366
surround wrote: post #297

GPT-5 knowledge cutoff: Sep 30, 2024 (10 months before release). Compare that to Gemini 2.5 Pro knowledge cutoff: Jan 2025 (3 months before release) Claude Opus 4.1: knowledge cutoff: Mar 2025 (4 months before release) https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/compare https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/pro/ https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/models/overv...

with web search, is knowledge cutoff really relevant anymore? Or is this more of a comment on how long it took them to do post-training?

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Re: GPT-5

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Post by mastercheif »

levocardia wrote: post #366
surround wrote: post #297

GPT-5 knowledge cutoff: Sep 30, 2024 (10 months before release). Compare that to Gemini 2.5 Pro knowledge cutoff: Jan 2025 (3 months before release) Claude Opus 4.1: knowledge cutoff: Mar 2025 (4 months before release) https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/compare https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/pro/ https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/models/overv...

with web search, is knowledge cutoff really relevant anymore? Or is this more of a comment on how long it took them to do post-training?

In my experience, web search often tanks the quality of the output.

I don't know if it's because of context clogging or that the model can't tell what's a high quality source from garbage.

I've defaulted to web search off and turn it on via the tools menu as needed.

Re: GPT-5

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Post by anthk »

386-486-Pentium. At first we got FDIV and F00F.

Something similar with this might happen, an underlying curse hidden inside an apparenting ground-breaking desigb.

Re: GPT-5

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Post by FeepingCreature »

fidotron wrote: post #277

Going by the system card at: https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-system-card/ > GPT‑5 is a unified system . . . OK > . . . with a smart and fast model that answers most questions, a deeper reasoning model for harder problems, and a real-time router that quickly decides which model to use based on conversation type, complexity, tool needs, and explicit intent (for example, if you say “think hard about this” in the prompt).…

If(f) it's trained end to end, it's a unified system.

Re: GPT-5

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Post by SkyPuncher »

losvedir wrote: post #86

Wait, isn't the Bernoulli effect thing they're demoing now wrong? I thought that was a "common misconception" and wings don't really work by the "longer path" that air takes over the top, and that it was more about angle of attack (which is why planes can fly upside down). It seems like it's actually an ideal "trick" question for an LLM actually, since so much content has been written about it incorrectly. I thought…

That Bernoulli effect thing was a complete fail. It didn't do anything to demonstrate the actual concept. It didn't work how they expected, at all.

I know that it's rather hard for them to demo the deep reasoning, but all of the demos felt like toys - rather that actual tools.

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