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Menstrual tracking app data is gold mine for advertisers that risks women safety

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Being arrested by a “public safety officer” is not safe at all.

You could probably find 10 separate videos of "public safety officers" assaulting innocent people by shooting them with rubber bullets for no discernible reason or by trampling them with horses (also for no discernible reason), and that's only from the last 2 days.

Ok, antifa, but there are over 10 million arrests in the US every year. Video is not in the same league of societal influence.

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(Don't take any of the below in a negative sense! It's awesome you built a privacy-first solution and care about these things, to the extent practical. Below just musings) I assume the attack vector here is more along the lines of 23andme bankruptcy -- if developer is bought by a new corporate entity / priorities change, what guarantees exist that privacy architecture won't backslide via updates? Users shouldn't be c…

This is a wonderful comment, but also ... Is there a way to prevent future versions of the app from uploaded the locally saved data? Even if none if it was in the cloud to begin with? That's the route I would be most concerned about. After that, I agree with the rest of your comment.

Blocking network access by a specific app at the OS level would be the way to achieve this.

I don't believe iOS currently has this ability (all network, not just cellular).

Android has solutions like NetGuard.

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This is a wonderful comment, but also ... Is there a way to prevent future versions of the app from uploaded the locally saved data? Even if none if it was in the cloud to begin with? That's the route I would be most concerned about. After that, I agree with the rest of your comment.

Blocking network access by a specific app at the OS level would be the way to achieve this. I don't believe iOS currently has this ability (all network, not just cellular). Android has solutions like NetGuard.

But you can make updates manual instead of automatic, that’s something.

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Some disorders more or less require tracking to make them diagnosable and their symptoms managable (e.g. PMDD). Managing tracking with paper is ofc possible, but apps allow for reminders and gamification that help on challenging days.

Sure, I'm not saying categorically don't just that people especially in the US and other countries that are having backslides on reproductive rights should think really hard about using period tracking apps if they don't have a strong reason to like you mentioned and even in those cases consider a more deniable and private option.

I agree. It seems pretty apocalyptic :(

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Can anyone tell me why this would be as much of a problem for safety as they are saying? The only thing I can see happening is easier selling of pads and tampons during a certain phase of the moon. Apparently this is what the article suggests too, that certain things are easier to sell at a certain point in the cycle. It’d be embarrassing if someone knew, not dangerous. And even that much feels weird to me for a very…

CNN: “A West Virginia prosecutor is warning women that a miscarriage could lead to criminal charges”. A gap in periods followed by their resumption could theoretically be enough to lead to prosecution.

A gap in periods could also mean that women body just decided not to bleed this month. It's not common, but it happens, some people have it naturally, some experience it while dieting or overstressed. The physical part of cycle is triggered by hormones, the hormones aren't always there.

Surely they can't prosecute for that.

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Can I ask why you use it? We used test strips - they're really cheap and way more accurate as women's bodies aren't clocks. That was effective for getting pregnant. Using anything except some kind of active measures to avoid pregnancy doesn't pass my engineer brain and certainly doesn't pass my wife's Pharmacologist brain (i.e. she actually knows what she's talking about whereas I'm using applied probability theory w…

FYI - many couples track cycles because they are trying to get pregnant.

Yes but as I said in my post - it's not effective. Hormone measuring strips are and they costs very little - $2 / month - and are very effective. We wouldn't have three kids now if we relied on counting days.

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As I had failed finding an app that was not ad-ridden or oldish, my girlfriend and I are using this (I am copying her values, to know when her period will be). Also contributing some code :)

Can I ask why you use it? We used test strips - they're really cheap and way more accurate as women's bodies aren't clocks. That was effective for getting pregnant. Using anything except some kind of active measures to avoid pregnancy doesn't pass my engineer brain and certainly doesn't pass my wife's Pharmacologist brain (i.e. she actually knows what she's talking about whereas I'm using applied probability theory w…

I’m not sure why this is downvoted, the strips are indeed a lot more accurate.

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CNN: “A West Virginia prosecutor is warning women that a miscarriage could lead to criminal charges”. A gap in periods followed by their resumption could theoretically be enough to lead to prosecution.

A gap in periods could also mean that women body just decided not to bleed this month. It's not common, but it happens, some people have it naturally, some experience it while dieting or overstressed. The physical part of cycle is triggered by hormones, the hormones aren't always there. Surely they can't prosecute for that.

surely the leopard won’t eat my face

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This looked promising, but the first two things I tried to record with it seemed just outside of its capabilities. I track blood pressure daily, but it didn’t seem to have a way to record a metric that has two numbers. In addition, I record the sodium and potassium values of everything I eat, and I want a way to record the name of the food item along with those two values (preferably providing a dropdown for previous…

Yeah, there is no support for “multi-dimensional” metrics. So systolic and diastolic would each have to be their own metric. Food tracking in Reflect could use some work, but if you link with Apple Health, Reflect can pull data from Cronometer or MyFitnessPal for example. Any particular place you thought the premium was very aggressive? I’m open to changing that, it’s not the kind of feedback we normally get. Thanks…

Could you elaborate on which features are premium only? Or maybe also put them in the AppStore description? I tend to be averse to even downloading apps with IAP, without knowing what they are going to be.

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Can I ask why you use it? We used test strips - they're really cheap and way more accurate as women's bodies aren't clocks. That was effective for getting pregnant. Using anything except some kind of active measures to avoid pregnancy doesn't pass my engineer brain and certainly doesn't pass my wife's Pharmacologist brain (i.e. she actually knows what she's talking about whereas I'm using applied probability theory w…

I’m not sure why this is downvoted, the strips are indeed a lot more accurate.

It's because people are reading the first few words and thinking "this is an male nerd asking stupid ignorant questions".

It's that or there are people who actually think that counting days is a good way to enable unprotected sex without a risk of baby. Which is absolutely isn't - it changes the risk to 2-5% a shot. Compared to around ~2% year for condoms alone.

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