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Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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https://futurism.com/chatgpt-mental-health-crises , which references the more famous https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/ai-spi... but is a newer article.

The article links to a forum post which kind of explains how engagement is maximised https://community.openai.com/t/uncovering-the-intent-behind-...

Poetic, but I don't think that really explains anything.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Nope, not what we’re doing. o3 is still o3 (no nerfing) and o3-pro is new and better than o3. If we were lying about this, it would be really easy to catch us - just run evals. (I work at OpenAI.)

Anecdotal, but about a week ago I noticed a sharp drop in o3 performance. For many tasks I will compare Gemini 2.5 Pro with o3, running the same prompt in both. Generally for my personal use o3 and G2.5P have been neck-and neck over the last months, with responses I have been very happy with. However starting from a week ago, the o3 responses became noticeably worse, with G2.5P staying about the same (in terms of wha…

Are you sure you're using the same models? G2.5P updated almost exactly a week ago.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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What stories? Can you back up that claim with some sources please?

https://www.reddit.com/r/hetzner/search?q=id

That's not a source and it is not my responsibility to backup the claims you made. That is yours. If you don't have any sources, and admit to just saying things that are not probable, I can also live with that.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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o3 is very much needed in VSCode GitHub CoPilot for Ask/Edit/Agent modes. It is sorely missing there.

Sure is - and o3 is missing from the OpenAI models that Azure is serving, which I suspect isn’t a coincidence - if OpenAI has some secret sauce that lets them undercut resellers this might shake up agreements for a bit.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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I think modern face verification has moved on, it's been video in all my encounters.

still no real human is involved, as they mention their verification is automated and prohabilistic — which is especially funny to hear in context of verification. Im pretty sure even a kid can go around it, e.g. on the video showing a photo of a person holding his passport which you can find online.

No, that's not how it works.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Despite the popular take that LLMs have no moat and are burning cash, I find OpenAI's situation really promising. Just yesterday, they reported an annualized revenue run rate of 10B. Their last funding round in March valued them at 300B. Despite losing 5B last year, they are growing really fast - 30x revenue with over 500M active users. It reminds me a lot of Uber in its earlier years—fast growth, heavy investment, b…

I mean sure, it's very promising if OpenAI's future is your only metric. It gets notably darker if you look at the broader picture of ChatGPT (and company)'s impact on our society. * We have people uploading tons of zero-effort slop pieces to all manner of online storefronts, and making people less likely to buy overall because they assume everything is AI now * We have an uncomfortable community of, to be blunt, act…

I absolutely agree. I find it abhorrent.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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I'd like to offer a cautionary tale that involves my experience after seeing this post. First, I tried enabling o3 via OpenRouter since I have credits with them already. I was met with the following: "OpenAI requires bringing your own API key to use o3 over the API. Set up here: https://openrouter.ai/settings/integrations " So I decided I would buy some API credits with my OpenAI account. I ponied up $20 and started…

With all this plus the saving of all chats they can't operate on the EU. But they do ....

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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There are stories about e.g. Hetzner requiring all sorts of data from people who want to open/verify accounts so perhaps not. Might just be an anti “money laundering” thing. Especially if the credit card company ends up refunding everything..

What stories? Can you back up that claim with some sources please?

Infomaniak did request my personal id or passport for creating a company account. I'm not going to provide any extra source for you, this is what happened to me, you can either believe it or not.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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This is almost certainly what they're doing and rebranding the original o3 model as "o3-pro"

Nope, not what we’re doing. o3 is still o3 (no nerfing) and o3-pro is new and better than o3. If we were lying about this, it would be really easy to catch us - just run evals. (I work at OpenAI.)

Unrelated: Can you all come up with a better naming scheme for your models? I feel like this is a huge UX miss.

o4-mini-high o4-mini o3 o3-pro gpt-4o

Oy.

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