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Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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that's really good to know When you look at reviews they all exclaim how clear and crisp it is, but they are virtually never looking at text, which is approximately the only thing I want to look at.

I compare it to VR headsets, and I've used most of them. I currently use a Quest Pro and consider that clearer and easier to read than the Air 2 Pros

That's really good to know as I have both a Quest 3 and a Quest Pro myself. What I'd say is that Quest 3 is about the minimum I can work with. I did work with Quest Pro for a while and it was just usable but only as an exception. If the current display glasses are worse than Quest Pro then for sure I'm not going to be happy.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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It's doing VNC-alike "graphics remoting", but with less isolation/security in the name of efficiency/performance: > We thought this is too inefficient. So we decided to combine both into a single application, to eliminate most of the interprocess communication, and avoid having the Linux server run in the background, and thus suffering from power optimizations. We still have a framebuffer, but we do the scrapping and…

Not clear it is much less secure. It could be using subprocesses and shared memory since they say they are just writing a buffer. I think you can't get that with cross app communication, only subprocess in Android, right?

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Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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There's roughly 4 different approaches to Linux on Android: • virtual machine emulating x86_64 • Termux • arm64 binaries running in chroot • proot.. Same idea as chroot, but doesn't use forbidden system calls Fifth option: arm64 pKVM VM from Android 15 on Pixel 7+ phone/tablet hardware using nested h/w virtualization. Shipped in 2025 under the uninformative name of "Linux Terminal" via Development options, Android no…

does it do virgl?

I've not seen any public docs on AVF/pKVM accelerated graphics, but a recent Collabora article on Linux graphics virt pointed to vDRM as a long term direction, https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2025/01/15/the-...

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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> I believe I have provided an explanation that is easy to understand. If that were so, you would not have had multiple people ask you for clarification or specifics. > Malls offered a lot more business value than just facilitating direct purchases. They do a lot to build brands, loyalty, and advertise to customers Thanks, I think what you are missing is that it appears, based on the evidence, that the "more business…

> If that were so, you would not have had multiple people ask you for clarification or specifics. There are multiple conditions which can create this result. I've stated why I do not believe "lack of clarity" is sufficient justification. It may be contributing, but I'll stand by that it is insufficient given what expectation we minimally expect someone to have. > examples you cite are often not enough to keep stores…

You are reiterating that you do not have any evidence or factual reasoning indicating that your theory is correct. Your questioning of what multiple people have told you is interesting, but until you bring an alternative theory which is convincing to those people, it is ultimately irrelevant, because it is your theory being defended here.

> If you think this is not the case, cool! Argue that!

This is literally your role here. You are disputing what multiple people have told you. If you think that the 'other value' is enough to keep stores open, then argue that (with numbers, obviously: this is HN, not reddit). If you think that stores aren't adapting, and that's why they're failing, and if they do X they would succeeded, then argue that, and describe X (with numbers, obviously: this is HN, not reddit).

We all know that a store provides more value than a warehouse. But is said extra value able to economically sustain properly-managed stores? The evidence (store closings) points to "mostly no". Your theory says "yes", (and perhaps that the store closings are actually a result of not doing X). Your theory is thus explicitly numbers-based. So how do you expect anyone to argue against the numbers in your theory when you haven't provided any?

As it stands now, your hypothesis is on equal footing, in terms of evidence, with "they didn't pray to the right god enough", and equally unconvincing. This is HN, not reddit: let's hear the specifics, not make random unconvincing claims and insist that proving or disproving them is someone else's job.

I'll get you started on your job of convincing someone other than yourself that your theory holds water, by providing an example with which you can proceed: Let's say we have an "all the XR glasses" store that lets visitors try on different XR glasses and see what fits, and the visitors then later buy them from Amazon because the glasses are cheaper there.

Ok, now your turn: go. How do they stay alive? If you can come up with something feasible and convincing, I might even start this store and give you a cut! :)

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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It sounds like we have a similar situation. I've been wondering if these kinds of glasses would work for me but it just seems like such a hassle to order a pair to try just to end up returning them if they don't work. I wish they were sold in a store that I could just walk into and try them for a minute. FWIW, I use a monitor arm that's mounted on the front left side of my desk (my dad also modified my desk so this w…

> I wish they were sold in a store that I could just walk into and try them for a minute. I've constantly wondered why this doesn't really exist. Not even just with AR or VR but with lots of products. I thought that early on in the transition to more online purchasing that it was well understood that people were still visiting stores so that they can inspect items before purchase. There always seemed to be a weird pe…

Best Buy is actually pretty good these days. If you have a Micro Center in your area, they're even better. Both will price match Amazon.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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I don't know if this will help you visualize it or not, but here's a photo of someone using a TV as a monitor on a desk https://i.imgur.com/mjcqjfZ.jpeg I use my 4K TV as a monitor (though from ~8ft away) and for me Windows' scaling (found under Display in Control Panel) allow me to easily read text from so far away Maybe it could help you

What’s going on with that guy’s left hand? Is this some kind of fake computer-generated image?

His hand is flat, slightly tipped up, hovering over the keyboard.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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UTM runs virtual machines on iOS and has been around a while: https://getutm.app Issue is that Apple doesn’t allow apps to run JIT so if you want the JIT version of UTM, you need to sideload or Jailbreak. The non-JIT version is on the App Store.

What’s the performance penalty for the non JIT version?

I've tried the non JIT version, and while it's cool that something like this even works, it's not actually usable. It's very, very slow for anything graphical. You might be able to get away with just running a terminal.

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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Ive been thinking about this too. Got the glasses and was thinking about small wireless split keyboards like the corne-ish zen My issue is the phone. I will need at least 24Gb of ram for my work.

I don't wish to shill, but I've been looking into this same setup, it appears redmagic could dole this out with a snapdragon elite processor to boot but I have not verified how well it actually works: https://na.redmagic.gg/pages/redmagic-10-pro

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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What about Cardboard VR like headset + a keyboard? Has anyone tried this setup?

I tried this with trinus back in the day, even with the good PPI on my phone then the optics weren't made for the screen and it was hot and heavy. This was with Samsung's gentrified effort at "cardboard"

Re: Coding without a laptop: Two weeks with AR glasses and Linux on Android

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> 1080p So good enough for gargoyling or other situations where even a laptop form factor is a pain, but not a proper replacement yet.

I came back briefly to ctrl-f for 'gargoyle' once I got about a third of the way through the article so thanks (still would though).

what is gargoyling?
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