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Aren't steaks fried?

No? I've never fried a steak. I grill them.

You never eaten a steak from a pan? Or you just never used any additional fat under the steak, which technically makes it grilling? Sorry, I'm not a native speaker and I thought frying is anything you do on a pan with no cover. I guess there's also searing but I thought it was kind of frying.

I found a recipe for skillet-fried steak: https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/food-cooking/recipes/a9744/p...

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Aren't steaks fried?

No. They can be cooked on a grill with no fat and they taste great.

Do they taste great? Or does the fatty salt taste great? Have you ever tried them without salt? Because salt or sugar can make anything fatty taste great.

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In Germany it's illegal to compare things to the Holocaust, even if they are like the Holocaust, even if they are literally a second Holocaust. A politician couldn't run on a platform of "we'll do another Holocaust" (they'd be arrested) but could run on a less specific statement like "we'll eliminate the useless eaters to make Germany strong, sending them Aut to Schwitzerland" and you would be arrested for pointing o…

You know i can check §130 StGB and see you are just making shit up?

You know I can just watch which signs get the people holding them arrested, and conclude what they're enforcing isn't what's written in 130 StGB?

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No. They can be cooked on a grill with no fat and they taste great.

Do they taste great? Or does the fatty salt taste great? Have you ever tried them without salt? Because salt or sugar can make anything fatty taste great.

Yes they taste great even without salt. I’m getting the impression you have never eaten a cow before. Maybe try some time before you say such things. I bet you’ll love it!

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post #382

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No? I've never fried a steak. I grill them.

You never eaten a steak from a pan? Or you just never used any additional fat under the steak, which technically makes it grilling? Sorry, I'm not a native speaker and I thought frying is anything you do on a pan with no cover. I guess there's also searing but I thought it was kind of frying. I found a recipe for skillet-fried steak: https://www.thepioneerwoman.com/food-cooking/recipes/a9744/p...

Nope. We grill steaks in Argentina. We do not fry them.

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No. They can be cooked on a grill with no fat and they taste great.

Do they taste great? Or does the fatty salt taste great? Have you ever tried them without salt? Because salt or sugar can make anything fatty taste great.

They taste great without salt or additional fat (other than what's already in the steak). We do not fry them in Argentina.

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Do they taste great? Or does the fatty salt taste great? Have you ever tried them without salt? Because salt or sugar can make anything fatty taste great.

Yes they taste great even without salt. I’m getting the impression you have never eaten a cow before. Maybe try some time before you say such things. I bet you’ll love it!

I'm eating steaks seared/fried on a pan almost weekly for few years now. I landed on a combination of herbs and spices to make them actually tasty (rosemary, black pepper, sweet paprika and of course plenty of salt). But still they are nowhere near the tastiest of the foods that I've eaten. I eat them because they are easily (and slowly) digestible, and rich in nutrients. I don't really have to think about the rest of my diet and I can eat whatever I have a craving for without risking some serious deficiency as long as I eat occasional steak and keep an eye on my weight.

I've also been to some steakhouses few times and what they serve ranges between terrible and passable.

I guess my tastes aren't typical.

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Yes they taste great even without salt. I’m getting the impression you have never eaten a cow before. Maybe try some time before you say such things. I bet you’ll love it!

I'm eating steaks seared/fried on a pan almost weekly for few years now. I landed on a combination of herbs and spices to make them actually tasty (rosemary, black pepper, sweet paprika and of course plenty of salt). But still they are nowhere near the tastiest of the foods that I've eaten. I eat them because they are easily (and slowly) digestible, and rich in nutrients. I don't really have to think about the rest o…

You’re just not correct. It’s alright, happens to the best of us.

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The conclusion of Davies' second extract — about e.g. being bumped off a flight — is recognisable but the conclusions are actually wrong. The situation in these cases is actually more subtle. The person you're speaking to does normally have some capacity to escalate in exceptional cases. But they can't do it as a matter of course, and have to maintain publicly that it's actually impossible. The people who get what th…

I have seen this as well, watching customer support issues get escalated to engineering. Many times, engineering tries to blow off the issue. It was fascinating to me how quickly an issue got escalated to numerous engineering managers, directors, leads, etc when the customer threaten to cancel their contract.

I was even more blown away when the whole thing becomes old, forgotten news the moment the customer stopped threatening to cancel the contract, even if the underlying problem remains.

This really reinforces the lesson that the main power structures of the world does not listen to "reason" - it only responds to incentives, whether they're airlines or ginormous tech companies.

Hacker News has also repeatedly noticed the same thing whenever a big tech customer issue hits the top of Hacker News, and the comments point out that the only way that customer got help was when it got enough attention to cause a reputation risk to the big tech company.

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I always remind myself when I have to go to the DMV[0] that I should plan on leaving with nothing more than another action or set of actions to take. I never enter the DMV expecting to complete a process, and the workers behind the counter always have this visible, visceral response when I DONT lose my fucking mind at their response to something. When I continue to be pleasant and understanding it’s like they suddenl…

Interesting distinction is deliberate vs unintentional accountability sinks. DMV sounds more like incompetence than design. Compare with airline where the system is “better” when you have no recourse.

I think it's more than incompetence or accountability sinks; The DMV (and similar offices; Service {Canada, Ontario}, etc) are also the points at which the bureaucratic system of government interfaces with actual people as well. Boundary-layer components in any system are complicated because they have to distill complex input into abstractions understood by the system.

I recently emigrated to Canada from the States and exchanged my US state driver's license for one in my now-home province, but there were a ton of hoops to jump through to add my US driving history to my provincial record. The process seemed to be somewhat exceptional as the supervisor for the DMV-equivalent had to guide the reps I spoke to on how to append the multiple-states-of-history that I had to offer.

That's just a microcosm of what it wakes to distill the complexity of a person's life into pieces of verified information that a government can ingest. That's a lossy, complicated process that relies on both the 'customer' and the agent having a matching mutual understanding of what points of information can be agreed upon or, indeed, offered.

In some cases it's not clear, either; my wife was told initially that she would have to hand over her license from two states ago to update her history, because the province's documentation showed it was still active (despite the fact that our immediately-previous state merrily punched a big VOID hole in it, and that it was expired), but when she returned after digging up her voided license they said they didn't even need to see it. That last bit was possibly 'incompetence'; possibly on the part of the Canadian agency, for not being consistent on if they needed to see the license or not, or the US states, for not being up to date on their record keeping, but again: these are complex systems tryng to maintain consistency. It's reasonable to expect noise.

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