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Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by simgt »

watwut wrote: post #355
simgt wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I loved temu, aliexpress, and shein. I probably averaged 1 item per day arriving to my house, for years and years. > I feel bad for the unaware people still ordering. I personally feel bad for the environment and all the people on the losing side of cheap low quality junk production. Good if the beneficiaries are gone from your part of the world.

Those people are not helped by loosing customers and there is no plan to help them. They would be helped by better job opportunities where they live, by more governmental protections for workers where they live etc. But, someone buying stuff made by their employer is not what harms them.

> But, someone buying stuff made by their employer is not what harms them.

It is exactly what harms them.

With that logic one can defend keeping children in tantalum mines in the supply chain of an iPhone. That's not an acceptable status quo...

Removing the market for immoral exploitation of beings and the environment is a necessary step. The size of the market for things made fairly needs to grow.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by wickedsight »

tantalor wrote: post #388

> shut off Google Shopping ads... App Store ranking subsequently plummeting Are they implying that app store ranking was quid pro quo for ads buys?

App store ranking is based on installs. Ads drive people to install the app. Less ads -> less installs -> lower ranking. Seems like a logical consequence.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by gaiagraphia »

josefresco wrote: post #384

Lot of "good they only sell crap" comments here. Would you guys feel the same about your neighborhood dollar store?

Yes. Your spending is a far more powerful vote than any democratic process. Your society is what it spends on. A society addicted to cheap trash is going to be precisely that.

These 'dollar stores' are wealth extraction centres, which don't really provide anything to society other than enriching a dropshipping middle class and foreign exploitative factory owner class. There's very little value being created.

I'd far rather support places where purchases have numerous positive externalities, whether it be from labour conditions to promoting curiosity, or from environmental impacts, to building local communities.

Society was doing quite ok until the greedy middleman classes decided to render the domestic working classes irrelevant for a little short-term profit, just so we can buy new LED lights, or change our t-shirt collection every week.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by properpopper »

constantcrying wrote: post #325
vachina wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you pay peanuts obviously you’re gonna get garbage. You chose to buy garbage, why blame the producer lol.

I don't buy anything from temu, but I also want that nobody else buys stuff from temu.

Good that you're not a policy maker. I'll order something from temu today

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by cbeach »

kergonath wrote: post #340
cbeach wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brexit literally just resulted in the UK having lower tariffs and a probable free trade deal with the largest economy on the planet. ...unlike our friends on the European continent.

> Brexit literally just resulted in the UK having lower tariffs That is, of course, entirely false. In that the UK does not, in fact, have lower tariffs, and even if that would be the case, there are many downsides that don’t have anything to do with tariffs. > and a probable free trade deal with the largest economy on the planet The FTA with the US has been "happening soon" for about a decade now. I’ll believe it wh…

> In that the UK does not, in fact, have lower tariffs

When tariffs were applied, UK got 10%, EU got 20%. There's currently a temporary reprieve on the EU.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/04/02/trump-tariff...

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

simgt wrote: post #391
watwut wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those people are not helped by loosing customers and there is no plan to help them. They would be helped by better job opportunities where they live, by more governmental protections for workers where they live etc. But, someone buying stuff made by their employer is not what harms them.

> But, someone buying stuff made by their employer is not what harms them. It is exactly what harms them. With that logic one can defend keeping children in tantalum mines in the supply chain of an iPhone. That's not an acceptable status quo... Removing the market for immoral exploitation of beings and the environment is a necessary step. The size of the market for things made fairly needs to grow.

There are kids in Congo that are claiming to be older than they are so they can get work in mines to feed themselves and their families. If they don’t work they and their families starve, but if they do work they are encouraging immoral child labor. I don’t understand why many people think the answer is easy and straightforward in that case, this sounds like the trolley problem to me.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by 34679 »

arghwhat wrote: post #362
0xTJ wrote: post #316

Good. They're pushing overpriced low-quality junk. If you want to buy from Temu but want a better chance at reasonable prices, shop AliExpress.

Temu vs. AliExpress is usually a shipment speed vs. cost tradeoff. Their catalogues also differ quite a bit in some areas, so sometimes one has to use one or the other. I feel like AliExpress has improved in this area though, likely due to pressure from Temu.

A few months ago, I had an AliExpress order beat an Amazon order to my house. I wasn't using Prime, but the AliExpress order did ship from China. It took about a week.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by mapt »

Brybry wrote: post #90
throwaway7394 wrote: post #30

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There's a minimum charge, as well a percentage. > Washington will also increase the per postal item fee on goods entering after May 2 and before June 1 to $100 from the planned $75. Parcels entering after June 1 will pay a fee of $200 per item instead of $150 announced previously, according to the Wednesday order. ref. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-10/trump-aga...

As far as I know, the way it works is shipping companies can do the % package value (ad valorem duty) or the flat rate per package (specific duty) but have to do the same method for all packages and can only change their method once a month.[1] My speculation is the ad valorem duty requires more manpower to implement and so that's why there's the specific duty option. Especially because they originally temporarily ha…

Wait, what?

So I can buy my carton of 120 iphones if I pay a $100 package fee, instead of $200,000 at the 120% rate?

Alternately: My Chinese excavator only costs $100 in tariffs?

Can someone give me pseudocode here?

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by sixseven »

viraptor wrote: post #126
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #3

I wonder what percentage of their sales has been in the US.

43% in 2023 https://ecdb.com/blog/temu-revenue/4995 They may not be toast, but I suspect there are many panicked planning meetings happening now. (Unless they were clever and had a plan ready for a while)

They did have a plan. Temu/Shein used to ship directly from China, handling the shipping themselves for the sellers on their platforms.

Since a year or two ago (or even earlier), they started accepting (and encouraging) sellers to handle the shipping themselves (while still maintaining a fast shipping time) by giving those sellers more traffic.

In order to have fast shipping time, it basically mean the sellers need to have warehouses (or 3rd party warehouses) in the USA. It's easier for the sellers to workaround the tariffs when they are shipping in bulk to the USA.

The prices will be higher for sure, but it will be a lot lower than people are expecting.

Not sure how well the plan will work. Just what I heard from people working in the industry.

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Post by grey-area »

flappyeagle wrote: post #363
grey-area wrote: post #352

Interesting dynamic here with echoes of the .com bubble where there is a huge web of industries all dependent on the current setup continuing and money being available for consumer spending and ads - when that dries up it will impact not just those selling goods imported from China, but everyone in the US. Disrupting US trade quickly with massive global tariffs will cause all sorts of secondary effects like a massive…

Conclusion is wrong here. There’s plenty of bid for the ad inventory. Google and meta are extremely resilient to this kind of thing

Even when this kind of thing is a global recession and the end of US supremacy?

If they stick with the tariffs we’ll see I guess though it seems likely Trump will have to back down.

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