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Re: Boycott IETF 127

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Post by hayst4ck »

cmurf wrote: post #376
hayst4ck wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an administration that openly is talking about annexing Canada, as well as invading panama and Greenland. It's an administration that has literally said "we want government workers in trauma." Historians are actively comparing us to Nazi Germany. https://snyder.substack.com/p/what-to-expect-when-youre-expe... The holocaust started as a deportation effort. Trump reportedly said "I wish I had Hitler's generals.…

In the 1965 book Night of Camp David the president's cabinet realized he was insane because of his fixation on annexing Canada. In 2025 Americans are so anesthetized even the "opposition party" can't say the obvious out loud in public. Let alone the president's cabinet. People voting for a dictator isn't equivalent to 3/4 of the legislatures ratifying an amendment to the Constitution. The People have not given consen…

> If the People want to set aside the Constitution

No, the constitution has a maintenance cost. The constitution is already set aside if people are not willing to pay that maintenance cost. Solidarity is the price of freedom.

Despotism is the default state you will get when you don't pay upkeep to your institutions.

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Post by skissane »

ABS wrote: post #264
p4coder wrote: post #145

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It depends on your citizenship. Some European countries reject 50% Indian Schengen visa applicantions. https://www.cntraveller.in/story/these-3-countries-rejected-...

Schengen is different from EU. More importantly, and according to your link, only Estonia rejected 50+% Indian applications, everyone else rejected less than 50%, with only 2 others anywhere near 50% (Malta and Slovenia). So out of 29 countries in the Schengen area only 3 were anywhere near the 50% mark and all 3 are tiny countries as far as both area and populations are concerned (those 3 combined account for only 4…

> Schengen is different from EU.

Schengen isn't "different from EU". It originally was separate from EU, but since 1999 has been an aspect of the EU. Per Wikipedia:

> Originally, the Schengen treaties and the rules adopted under them operated independently from the European Union. However, in 1999 they were incorporated into European Union law by the Amsterdam Treaty, while providing opt-outs for the only two EU member states that had remained outside the Area: Ireland and the United Kingdom (which subsequently withdrew from the EU in 2020). Schengen is now a core part of EU law, and all EU member states without an opt-out which have not already joined the Schengen Area are legally obliged to do so when technical requirements have been met. Several non-EU countries are included in the area through special association agreements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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Post by skissane »

Jolter wrote: post #326
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #324

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It’s not unsafe for anyone to visit the US either. Unless you’re violating the law in some way, like presenting false documents or overstaying a visa - in which case there would be consequences like in any other country. Sure mistakes can happen on rare occasions, like in any country, but “arbitrary” detention isn’t a thing. That’s just sensationalism from a biased news media that has no idea why anyone was denied or…

Overstaying a visa in any other (developed) country does not result in this kind of detention. These people are not even being given due process. I’m sure each of them is detained for some mistake in their paperwork, but some of these stories are really not flattering to the ICE.

> Overstaying a visa in any other (developed) country does not result in this kind of detention.

The US doesn't have a monopoly on immigration horror stories: Australian immigration illegally detained an Australian citizen for 10 months. [0] They illegally deported another Australian citizen to the Philippines, and when they discovered their mistake, their initial response was to cover it up rather than try to rectify it. [1]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelia_Rau

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Solon

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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Post by froh »

_2d30 wrote: post #387
froh wrote: post #378

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the source is good, the book it reviews is abysmal. spreading it, publishing it and writing it constitute crimes according to German penal code. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksverhetzung this legislation is a consequence of the paradox of tolerance.

I literally have no idea what you're talking about. This is what I linked to: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/deceiving-... Which if you had clicked and read you would see comes from the US Holocaust museum and is heavily focused on Theresienstadt. I was making a point that you're not really interested in engaging with anything I'm writing and are instead focused on just getting your own point acros…

srry for the confusion.

the 2010 "source" further above is abysmal Holocaust denial.

your source (ushmm) of course is not.

I got confused on the small smart phone display about who I was responding to.

apologies again.

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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Post by Aeolun »

pas wrote: post #340
Aeolun wrote: post #250

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That’d be fine if there was an equal number of people that could vouch for something, but that button doesn’t exist now?

Did it existed for submissions? I only saw it for comments.

Just had dang reply that it only works for ‘[dead]’ (which I guess only applies to comments), not for flagged posts.

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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Post by ABS »

skissane wrote: post #392
ABS wrote: post #264

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Schengen is different from EU. More importantly, and according to your link, only Estonia rejected 50+% Indian applications, everyone else rejected less than 50%, with only 2 others anywhere near 50% (Malta and Slovenia). So out of 29 countries in the Schengen area only 3 were anywhere near the 50% mark and all 3 are tiny countries as far as both area and populations are concerned (those 3 combined account for only 4…

> Schengen is different from EU. Schengen isn't "different from EU". It originally was separate from EU, but since 1999 has been an aspect of the EU. Per Wikipedia: > Originally, the Schengen treaties and the rules adopted under them operated independently from the European Union. However, in 1999 they were incorporated into European Union law by the Amsterdam Treaty, while providing opt-outs for the only two EU memb…

please read the text you quoted:

"Several non-EU countries are included in the area through special association agreements."

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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Post by anonfordays »

jeltz wrote: post #237
HexDecOctBin wrote: post #235

@dang Why is this flagged? Even without the politics, knowing that a large cohort is not going to attend in an important piece of information.

[flagged]

You don't have to be pro-Trump to flag this. I flagged it for pushing fake news and far-left extremism.

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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Post by skissane »

ABS wrote: post #396
skissane wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Schengen is different from EU. Schengen isn't "different from EU". It originally was separate from EU, but since 1999 has been an aspect of the EU. Per Wikipedia: > Originally, the Schengen treaties and the rules adopted under them operated independently from the European Union. However, in 1999 they were incorporated into European Union law by the Amsterdam Treaty, while providing opt-outs for the only two EU memb…

please read the text you quoted: "Several non-EU countries are included in the area through special association agreements."

Yes, but the inclusion of a non-EU country in an EU programme as a special exception (not unique to Schengen) doesn’t thereby make it a non-EU programme, which is a natural interpretation of what you said

Re: Boycott IETF 127

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Post by account42 »

croes wrote: post #87
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #53

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The german cases are true and there is nothing you can say that would justify putting people in prison for multiple days without their relatives knowing what’s happening. There is also no evidence of them of any wrongdoing. Just claims by the ICE.

There is also no evidence that there isn't any wrongdoing, just media running with whatever the relatives claim for clicks.
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