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Post by dettil »

4ndrewl wrote: post #332
dettil wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prior to Musk's purchase of Twitter, feminists who expressed the view that women and girls need single-sex spaces, and that males who identify as women aren't actually women and therefore shouldn't be allowed in these spaces, would be banned from the platform under the guise of "transphobia". They were literally being silenced for expressing their criticism of the ideology of gender identity and how it is being used…

The difference is that freedom of speech is concerned with what the Government allows you to talk about. X, through Musk, is now a quasi-governmental platform - as can demonstrated by actions like this.

I agree that is true regarding freedom of speech laws. But many organisations, including social media platforms, have policies regarding freedom of speech as well. Universities are another such example, as free speech is an essential component of academic freedom.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by jzb »

aredox wrote: post #337
matwood wrote: post #36

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We really are living in a world where we were always at war with Eurasia. Musk shouted loudly to his followers his views on free speech and why he wanted to buy Twitter. And now, it’s like it never happened. This isn’t like a bias news outlet leaving out certain facts, this is Musk himself saying these things and people going along with it. It’s bonkers to me.

Remember how he tried to get out of the twitter deal by claining there were too many bots? How is the bot situation on twitter now?

I don’t think he ever wanted out of the deal. It was a way to keep the acquisition from being scrutinized too much.

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Post by guappa »

hiddencost wrote: post #381
BSDobelix wrote: post #176

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>>Aren't racists a minority who struggle to express themselves? Maybe (if it's about black or white), but anti-Semites have a pretty loud and public voice in the "Western" world.

Pretty much anytime sometime says "antisemitism" these days what they mean is "opposing genocide". The Jewish people who are against genocide really do not appreciate people like you staining them with that lie.

In Italy even saying "stop genocide" without further elaboration on state tv is enough to get the Israelian ambassador to call the prime minister.

https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2024/02/14/travaglio-a-la7-...

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by Tycho »

Can’t really tell what most of you are complaining about. You can say anything on X (short of doxing and inciting violence and things that are against the law), you can follow or block anyone on X.

If they ban Signal links, a competitor platform, that’s a shame, but whatever you say on Signal you can say on X instead.

Seems like some people think a “free speech platform” would be some sort of moderated debating space where opinions you dislike are silenced on your behalf and the downstream political ramifications are things that you personally enjoy, or else it’s not free speech but “fascism” (lol).

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by dettil »

JohnMakin wrote: post #385
dettil wrote: post #360

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-48366184 You should perhaps do more research before making claims like "flat out falsehood".

Even this article doesn’t go out of its way to say that’s why she was banned - this is according to her. Even if this terrible source were true and you found a single case - it doesnt change the fact at all at what I said, the single loudest feminist anti trans voice is still alive and well on twitter and has never faced a lick of censorship on twitter or now X. So yea, it’s a falsehood. Musk didnt “change” anything…

I could search X and provide many more examples, including from feminists who appealed and were unbanned after Musk took over the company, others from screenshots posted of emails with the reason for the ban.

Would that change your view?

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Post by alt227 »

unclebucknasty wrote: post #300
alt227 wrote: post #191

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> anti-Semites have a pretty loud and public voice in the "Western" world So do Jews. So are we seeing full free speech in action? Or is whats right decided by which side people agree with?

> So do Jews. So are we seeing full free speech in action? To be clear, you're comparing anti-semites (a racist "group") with Jews (an ethnic/religious group). One is defined by holding a targeted, hateful ideology. The other is a group of human beings, by birth/existence. I make no claim against you, but this framing represents the insidiously successful repackaging of hate as an "equal right", which racists have us…

> To be clear, you're comparing anti-semites (a racist "group") with Jews (an ethnic/religious group). One is defined by holding a targeted, hateful ideology. The other is a group of human beings, by birth/existence.

I disagree. In this context they are 2 groups of people who disagree about something, everything else is irrelevant. It is your opinion to colour one side or the other 'hateful', 'racist' or any other word. You are applying your opionin and bias to other people arguments to paint one side better than the other.

Take this same opinion and apply it to Israel/Palestine, and suddenly it becomes not so clear cut. Both sides claim something about the other side, and both are killing each other because if it. In this instance, who would you call hateful and racist? It completely depends on who you sympathise with as there is no correct answer here. It is no different to any other groups of people who you are not part of.

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Post by krige »

iszomer wrote: post #142
sounddetective wrote: post #68

Everyone reading this -- sign up for Bluesky, help it build up a larger network effect, so it can outcompete X. It already has 30m users.

I have and deactivated my account a day or two in -- that un-removable message up top that it will use your posts, likes, etc to train their models unsettled me. At least they were upfront about it, unlike Twitter/X. I also didn't like that I had 30 different followers the moment I signed up.

Bsky doesn't train AIs using your data. They're warning you that your data may be scraped and used as such by third parties.
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