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Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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Post by magicalhippo »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #357
j16sdiz wrote: post #272

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DHL/FedEx do lots of declaration/tax work for imported packages. More often than not, they inspects the package before sealing. USPS don't -- they simply forward from HongKongPost or ChinaPost. If the local post office in HK or CN does not cooperation, they can't do anything.

So, they don't check for fentanyl? Might explain the move. I remember ordering some prescription drugs from India, which is, I think, illegal. It arrived to local post office, so I guess, USPS.

Here in Norway, customs works tightly with the courier companies and postal service. They even have their own booth at the major postal hub, which processes all postal shipments from abroad.

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vaccineai wrote: post #324
Daishiman wrote: post #319

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Building out more high-speed rail interconnections than any other part in the world is a well-known sign of a country that thinks short-term.

Building out mostly unused high-speed rail interconnections and being in debt is a well-known sign of a country that thinks short-term. the local government gets paid for building these useless rails out. China Sees More Stations Shut Down as High-Speed Rail Debt Crisis Deepens https://english.pardafas.com/china-sees-more-stations-shut-d... China’s High-Speed Rail Is Dead: Over 4,000 Ghostly Stations, Billions Spent,…

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Post by bsdice »

dtquad wrote: post #120
reaperman wrote: post #72

This is going to utterly fuck so many R&D projects at my company. We actually do large-scale manufacturing of industrial valves in the USA. But a lot of our prototyping involves working with Chinese suppliers and getting small batches of samples / prototypes / revisions sent in packages on airplanes. I literally do not know how the electrical and firmware engineers will do their jobs now if we cannot receive packages…

>I literally do not know how the electrical and firmware engineers will do their jobs now if we cannot receive packages from China As a software engineer who works closely with electrical and firmware engineers I know what you are saying is completely true. The question is how did we let it go this far? Why has there never been serious Western alternatives to JLCPCB, PCBWay, JLCCNC etc.? Has anyone asked themselves h…

Check AislerHQ on Twitter, based in Germany and should not be affected from the block.

No affiliation except that I like to look at naked PCBs.

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Post by inetknght »

antonyt wrote: post #388
inetknght wrote: post #365

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That's funny because I've thought it is the same for years and I'm happy to see someone else post a comment about it instead. Perhaps you'd like to elaborate on why you think it's not the same.

These are the extremely obviously different. A company that has to take specific measures to prevent the suicide of their workers should raise a much different level of scrutiny that the fact that a massive bridge available to millions of people is used to commit suicide.

Why should a company require more strict scrutiny than, say, a public bridge? Well of course there are many reasons, but specifically: in the case of addressing suicide? If a bridge is being used to commit suicide then... perhaps the problems causing suicide should be addressed instead of (or... in addition to) the symptom of suicide being prevented.

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Post by throwaway290 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #373
throwaway290 wrote: post #265

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3921082-house-unanimously... > “Their economy size is second only to that of the United States. [The] United States is treated as a developed country, so should PRC,” Kim said. “And is also treated as a high-income country in treaties and international organizations, so China should also be treated as a developed country.” And CCP also usually paints PRC superior to US in everything…

The US is treated as a high-income country because incomes are high. Incomes in China are low. There's nobody disputing either of those claims. USA NGDP per capita 2024: US$86,600, just below Norway. China NGDP per capita 2024: US$13,000, just below Malaysia. Their economy is large because there are more of them. That doesn't do anything for their income.

High income != developed. There are different metrics.

Overall GDP very high, GDP PPP per capita middling, incomes highly disparate, etc. Developing status becomes kinda subjective and this particular move is not insane. Sadly it's unlike many many other moves.

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Post by reaperman »

meigwilym wrote: post #374
Veliladon wrote: post #149

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Because there's nowhere in the US like Shenzhen, Guangdong or Hong Kong. Remember how Apple couldn't just pick up and move the production of iPhones to India or Vietnam? You need all the ancillary industries around the production to be there, along with being competitive and commoditized as well. When a supplier has something go wrong a line of manufacturing doesn't go down. You go down the street to the same guy sel…

> If the SMT components are manufactured domestically say for military purposes it's going to be spread out all over the US because politicians pork barrel contracts for their districts and states. Or possibly politicians attracting investment to their districts for the benefit their voters. What's the alternative here, a centrally planned economy?

I don't understand your comment. None of it makes any sense.

> because politicians pork barrel contracts for their districts and states.

> Or possibly politicians attracting investment to their districts for the benefit their voters

That's literally the same thing - you just gave the definition of pork barrel spending. It isn't purely bad, it's just excessive or unnecessary to benefit one politician's constituents.

And pork barrel spending is also literally a centrally-planned economy. It's the federal government saying "put this industry here" despite the fact that capitalism would not have put it there.

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Post by jdietrich »

pclmulqdq wrote: post #154
Aurornis wrote: post #141

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> The question is how did we let it go this far? Why has there never been serious Western alternatives to JLCPCB, PCBWay, JLCCNC etc.? Has anyone asked themselves how these Chinese firms are so cheap? It’s not really a secret. They have cheap labor. Very lax environmental standards (big deal for PCB manufacturing). They have a high density of manufacturing and production. One factory can get their materials and machi…

Most US-based PCB manufacturers can do low-volume PCBs rather cheaply for you, but not quite at China prices. AdvancedPCB in the US has their "$33 each" which gets you a very quick turnaround on a pretty-good-tech 2-layer board for $100 total (minimum 3 boards). They do 4-layer PCBs for $66/board and they apparently also do RF materials for $100/board. Sierra Circuits, for example, also has similar prices. This is a…

"Not quite at China prices" is something of an understatement. JLCPCB offer five 100mm*100mm 4-layer boards for $7. Not $7 each, $7 total for five boards. Shipping to Europe is $1.50.

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Post by jdietrich »

likeabatterycar wrote: post #270
PeterStuer wrote: post #258

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"Because the West has to actually follow environmental and safety regulations" ... that can only exist because they can circumvent them by offshoring all their production to the East and South. If they actually wanted to comply rather than bypass said regulations they would have to curb consumption for which there would not be support.

Next you're going to tell me that the cobalt used to make batteries for the electric vehicles literally saving the environment right now in the West is being mined by enslaved children in the Congo with archaic hand tools and no PPE under inconceivable conditions.

BYD and CATL are using cobalt-free chemistry in most of their batteries. I suppose that makes the Chinese evil for stealing the bread from Congolese children's mouths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery

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Post by potato3732842 »

nozzlegear wrote: post #296
mastodon_acc wrote: post #224

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It’s a govt service, they are not trying to meet wall street quarterly shareholder expectations

It's worth noting that Congress has been trying to force the USPS to run itself like a self-sustaining business for decades at this point. It started in 1970 with the Postal Reorganization Act, which transformed it from a government department to an independent government entity that was expected to fund its operations entirely through its own revenue. Then in 2006, a Republican-controlled Congress passed the PAEA wh…

USPS does more or less teeter on the edge of solvent and sustainable depending on how you measure and when you measure. All things considered, I think that's pretty damn good. Pretty much no other government service can claim that. I think the retiree funding requirement is/was dumb and an unnecessary handicap but the way USPS runs itself should be a model for other government services. The only reason we don't look at USPS as a massive success is because the idiot left brains want it to be run like a charity and the idiot right brains want it gone entirely.

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Post by throwaway290 »

School-Cotton wrote: post #327
throwaway290 wrote: post #265

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3921082-house-unanimously... > “Their economy size is second only to that of the United States. [The] United States is treated as a developed country, so should PRC,” Kim said. “And is also treated as a high-income country in treaties and international organizations, so China should also be treated as a developed country.” And CCP also usually paints PRC superior to US in everything…

Which country is poorer: Luxembourg or Kenya? Luxembourg has a lower GDP, after all.

> PPP-adjusted GDPs per capita

ftfy.

on which btw China scores higher than Mexico and World Bank classifies Mexico as an upper-middle-income economy

And the answer is Luxembourg by a mile.

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