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Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Matt Sayman was a PM in my org at FB in 2015. Smart guy. He was 18 at the time. I watched his journey on Threads as he taught himself to program this year in order to make that app. Proud of his success.

Michael Sayman?

Yeah whoops

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Facebook Meta has been making baffling bets lately. They spent tens of billions building a metaverse with the belief that people want to spend their days in a creepy legless 3d avatar of themselves that is pretty effective at simulating what it feels to have body dysphoria, playing with their other legless friends and spending a lot of money customizing their dysphoric avatars. Now they believe what users really want…

> I really believe Zuckerberg is a lizard after all, I can't find any other sane explanation for this The most likely explanation is that Zuck and others of his generation that have hit the infinite money glitch in tech have no interest in statesmanship, in helping the less fortunate in the real world. I say "of his generation" because even a jaded monopolist like Bill Gates shifted his interests to actual global cha…

I think Musk is actually out to build a dynasty. That's the reason for his political ambitions and for having tons of kids.

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My feed in the mobile app is - post from friend - post from friend - post from friend - people you might know - post from friend - post from friend - post from friend - post from friend - post from friend - post from frien - loops - post from friend - post from friend - post from friend - post from a non-friend about a friend - post from friend - post from friend - post from friend - post from friend - post from frie…

how have you managed this? mine is full of thirdparty shit even though I have been actively saying "I don't like this"

I wish I knew the precise steps. I've certainly wanted to rage quit FB in the past but I'd be socially isolating myself since I have friends that post there. Also, FB Messenger is my most used communication tool though I could use that without using FB.

I'd love to know what A-B testing, if any, FB has done here and if their methodologies for ascertaining results are actually correct. For example, it's obvious that the success of TikTok has them pushing "loops", one of their TikTok clone efforts. I'd personally like to completely block "loops" from my life except maybe if a friend recommends one, and I'd have a better opinion of FB if they let me. I can guess that might not translate to better metrics on 1 billion people but I can also imagine not annoying people would lead to more engagement.

I quit Instagram because it was ~1 relevant post (a friend) to 5+ irrelevant posts (non-friends) and their redesign to try to push me to follow non-friends by only showing non-seen friend posts and then filling my feed with non-friend spam. So, I quit. Is that a loss for them? No idea. I only know I'd have stayed if they let me opt out of the push to be TikTok.

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No, there are people on Facebook really do like AI slop. My Nonna unironically loves the AI Jesus gifs and AI gifs of dogs washing babies. Many elderly people, I think, don’t know or care if an image is AI generated.

This really made me think that the distinction is not age, but rather the people who have ever used computers to create things, and those who use smart phones as a source of entertainment only. People who create things, have a sense of the time and effort that goes into making something meaningful. So most of the 'hackers and makers' on HN fit into that and show a disdain for GenAI generated content. We've even coine…

I think you’re putting people who make art on a pedestal.

Remember there was an AI image that won an art contest.

> To grandma it's basically an extension of gifs and emojis and memes, silly little novelty distractions

Yeah of course, but that doesn’t change what I was saying.

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My FB timeline is already a complete mess with most irrelevant garbage as it stands. Not exactly sure what adding additional 'noise' is going to achieve outside of boosting numbers (which I guess is what they want). A current snapshot my feed: - Group post (from one I follow) - Ad - Post (from company I don't follow) - Group post (from Group I don't follow) - Group post (from one I follow) - Ad - Group post (from Gro…

I don't want to make you use it more, but I found a thing that actually works for me, to restore some of the previous feed behavior. I saved a bookmark that directly goes to the "Friends" feed. It seems to have surprisingly few (I think zero or one) ads and recommended things this way. The funny thing is that the "You read all the posts" thing still appears if used in this way, telling you to go outside. I do the sam…

The second param on the FB url seems to control the sidebar. Better without the &sk=...

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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This gave me a funny idea for a new social media app... One that's centered around "you" and filled with thousands/millions of LLM bots praising you, treating you like a celebrity, etc. Each of your posts will get tens of thousands of "likes", hundreds of comments, etc. Dm's straight to your feed, people wanting you, etc etc. If the newsfeed is already mostly "the algorithm", might as well take it to the extreme. I b…

In a sense, I can definitely see something like this being popular. We've already got things like virtual friends/assistants/romantic partners built using AI systems and bots, and this is kinda just the next level of that. I think games also sometimes go that route too, I know a few of them have you play against bots disguised as human players when starting out in multiplayer so you win easily and feel better about your chances.

So a social network like this would probably do well, depressingly enough. And it'd probably be even more unhealthy for society than existing ones are.

It'd also fall straight into the whole 'don't create the torment nexus' thing too, since I'm pretty sure quite a few works of fiction did something like this already. I mean, the villain of the latest Mario RPG literally traps people in fantasies where everyone treats them as the centre of the universe in his ploy to force isolation on people and destroy worlds. This feels a bit like that, except as a social network and a few times less lethal.

Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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This gave me a funny idea for a new social media app... One that's centered around "you" and filled with thousands/millions of LLM bots praising you, treating you like a celebrity, etc. Each of your posts will get tens of thousands of "likes", hundreds of comments, etc. Dm's straight to your feed, people wanting you, etc etc. If the newsfeed is already mostly "the algorithm", might as well take it to the extreme. I b…

It might be heavy, but I really like the idea of someone building this to run offline and completely on-device. Maybe branded as a sort of 'personal journal with an audience'. My experience with mobile diaries is the biggest challenge is encouraging the user to keep up the habit. I'm very curious if this could be solved by introducing a new cycle of feedback from AI peers who would feign curiosity about my life. Coul…

This is still sad

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No, there are people on Facebook really do like AI slop. My Nonna unironically loves the AI Jesus gifs and AI gifs of dogs washing babies. Many elderly people, I think, don’t know or care if an image is AI generated.

That makes me really sad for some reason. AI content is replacing something for the elderly. Is that good or bad? I don't know but it feels sad.

Feels Black Mirror

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Facebook Meta has been making baffling bets lately. They spent tens of billions building a metaverse with the belief that people want to spend their days in a creepy legless 3d avatar of themselves that is pretty effective at simulating what it feels to have body dysphoria, playing with their other legless friends and spending a lot of money customizing their dysphoric avatars. Now they believe what users really want…

I think a lot of his decisions can be boiled down to being hellbent on disrupting Apple.

I think the metaverse was his first crack at it until Wall Street gave him the hook for over spending.

Then when AI came around he again became fixated on the meta verse but using AI as the means of generating content for it.

I think these are all moon shot bets and meta still has no track record of success in hardware despite multiple attempts.

It seems that the next great hardware platform is probably a long ways away and will require some breakthrough that hasn’t happened yet and likely to come from a person with maniacal focus on a single application because that seems to have been the pattern in the past.

In other words I think it’s highly unlikely a current incumbent fosters the next hardware platform. I remember a time not so long ago when a lot of smart people were saying that Alexa was going to disrupt everything as we know it.

Also this AI shit on Facebook these days just seems really weird. But maybe there’s a vision of the future that suddenly makes it’s indispensable. Who knows?

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