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Unless my phone can be a PC, I don't want to keep paying for extra performance

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Re: Unless my phone can be a PC, I don't want to keep paying for extra performance

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Post by resource_waste »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #390
resource_waste wrote: post #291

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I think lots of people here have little understanding how expensive $600 to a stay at home mom or teen is. Getting an iphone says you got middle class money(even if it was $12/mo for the next 5 years). There are upper-middle class equivalents of this. Cars come to mind. It is interesting explaining to a middle class person why I have a $100 crappy phone. "My old one broke, and I have 4 of these $100 phones for my wif…

The cheapest iphones have been $400 or $430 for many, many years now. Divided by the number of hours a phone is used, the amortized cost of having something you want is miniscule. This is the thing moms will be taking precious pictures of their kids with, video calling their families on, shopping for themselves and others, and even watching or listening to entertainment. If there’s one thing that people can justify s…

>but spending an extra $500 is going to make sense to many people for purposes outside of showing off.

If this was true, Apple would not be the major US player.

Everything you mentioned doesnt cost $500, it cost $200 on a nexus a decade ago.

Re: Unless my phone can be a PC, I don't want to keep paying for extra performance

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Post by resource_waste »

simion314 wrote: post #386
resource_waste wrote: post #381

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What is it with Debian-family people saying the word 'Arch'. "Debian is outdated and cant be used with Nvid---" "ARCH" "ARCH sucks, too hard" what? I never mentioned Arch. There is some sickness going on with Debian-family members, to see this 'Arch' line across the internet when literally no one mentions Arch, makes me think there some fear mongering going on.

It is decades of Arch toxicity, other distros not only Debian based will confirm it. Arch is an OK distro but their kernel is not faster then a Debian kernel, I run Arch for a whle, I compiled the kernel with the flags for my CPU, I build the required modules into the kernel so it loads a second faster, there was no systemd so I also optimized the boot services. I had a ton of free time. But then I did not had free t…

Debianers have to have an enemy to justify their existence to still use Debian.

If not for Arch, they might have tried a good distro.

Re: Unless my phone can be a PC, I don't want to keep paying for extra performance

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Post by gitaarik »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #253

ctrl+f: "maruOS". Really, no one? https://maruos.com/ TLDR: Android "custom rom" turns into debian when plugged into a monitor. Has been around since at least 2016.

Looks cool, but it doesn't seem to have any new releases since 2019

Re: Unless my phone can be a PC, I don't want to keep paying for extra performance

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Post by SirMaster »

What I don't understand is why modern phones like my iPhone 14 Pro have UI lag sometimes... Like you can see the frame-rate visibly slow down sometimes on translucency animations etc.

Like the 14 Pro is so much faster than the first couple iPhones, and those didn't even have UI lag like that.

Re: Unless my phone can be a PC, I don't want to keep paying for extra performance

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Post by maccard »

gitaarik wrote: post #387
maccard wrote: post #379

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> I guess for people that are not very tech savvy iOS is maybe easier and safer. This is dismissive. I'm tech savvy - I'm a programmer who has written kernel level code shipped to hundreds of thousands of people. It's not about it being "easier and safer", it's about not caring wanting to have to make every microdecision just so I can read an email.

I didn't mean to be dismissive, but that I can see why you would choose iOS as your main OS. Because yeah maybe other people in your family are not as tech savvy and you want to use the same ecosystem. Also apps on Android usually have sane defaults so you don't necessarily have to make microdecisions in order to read an email.

I think a great example of the android decisions is (or was) “which wallet do I use?” I had a Samsung phone, and used google chrome as it synced with my pc. Except google pay didn’t work with the Samsung phone, so I had to use Samsung wallet (and let’s not mention the fact I had a Fitbit watch which required Fitbit pay, even though they were owned by google at the time). So I ended up with three separate apps which had their own intricacies. Since I swapped to iOS, I have a wallet and that’s that.

Re: Unless my phone can be a PC, I don't want to keep paying for extra performance

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Post by Neonlicht »

mihaaly wrote: post #267

Absolutely warranted, but there is no reason to worry, apps will keep up with the performance development and in a blink of an eye you will be forced (security, security security!!) to upgrade to the new versions of phone app or photo app dragging in 'free' and top notch AI assisted VR capabilities or whatnot that require power beyond current levels. Do you need that feature? Absolutely not. Nevertheless, you will ha…

Bought a mid range Samsung A55 and it does everything I want.

But then I have a gaming PC and a big television at home.

Re: Unless my phone can be a PC, I don't want to keep paying for extra performance

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Post by lotsofpulp »

resource_waste wrote: post #391
lotsofpulp wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cheapest iphones have been $400 or $430 for many, many years now. Divided by the number of hours a phone is used, the amortized cost of having something you want is miniscule. This is the thing moms will be taking precious pictures of their kids with, video calling their families on, shopping for themselves and others, and even watching or listening to entertainment. If there’s one thing that people can justify s…

>but spending an extra $500 is going to make sense to many people for purposes outside of showing off. If this was true, Apple would not be the major US player. Everything you mentioned doesnt cost $500, it cost $200 on a nexus a decade ago.

I used Nexus a decade ago, and they didn’t even have simple video calling figured out. There was a new app every month.

Also, a Nexus wasn’t $200 in 2014, and in no way was a $200 mobile phone in 2014 as good as a $500 iPhone (or any other $500 phone).

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Post by wkat4242 »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #384
wkat4242 wrote: post #362

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The official DeX docks have a fan built in. This helps a lot especially if you take the phone out of the case. I need to do so anyway because the usb doesn't go in deep enough without it.

dock + fan + monitor already weights more than a laptop ..

Umm yeah but I don't travel with those. I keep them on site. And just plug in my phone when I get there. I have one set up at every place I am a lot.

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Post by astrange »

hilbert42 wrote: post #284
astrange wrote: post #266

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> Why isn't there general purpose D/A and A/D ports/outputs for instrumentation? There is one, it's the headphone jack. (Or dongle.)

Not useful, it's dedicated. You missed my point.

Is that autocorrect? Because I have no idea what dedicated means here.

It's obviously useful, that's how Square launched their card reader business.

Re: Unless my phone can be a PC, I don't want to keep paying for extra performance

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Post by hulitu »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #390
resource_waste wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think lots of people here have little understanding how expensive $600 to a stay at home mom or teen is. Getting an iphone says you got middle class money(even if it was $12/mo for the next 5 years). There are upper-middle class equivalents of this. Cars come to mind. It is interesting explaining to a middle class person why I have a $100 crappy phone. "My old one broke, and I have 4 of these $100 phones for my wif…

The cheapest iphones have been $400 or $430 for many, many years now. Divided by the number of hours a phone is used, the amortized cost of having something you want is miniscule. This is the thing moms will be taking precious pictures of their kids with, video calling their families on, shopping for themselves and others, and even watching or listening to entertainment. If there’s one thing that people can justify s…

> If there’s one thing that people can justify spending more on for more utility, it’s a smartphone.

For a dumb device ? Max 200 €. Browsing the internet on a smartphone is terrible, the GUI is terrible, typing is terrible. DOS level multitasking. Spying machine. No way i will pay more for this.

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