After a few hours of $200 Pro usage, it's completely worth it. Having no limit on o1 usage is a game changer, where I felt so restricted before, the amount of intelligence at the palm of my hand UNLIMITED feels a bit scary.
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> In other words, it's a con. A con like that wouldn't last very long. This is for people who rely enough on ChatGPT Pro features that it becomes worth it. Whether they pay for it because they're freelance, or their employer does. Just because an LLM doesn't boost your productivity, doesn't mean it doesn't for people in other lines of work. Whether LLM's help you at your work is extremely domain-dependent.
> ... or their employer does.
I suspect this is a key driver behind having a higher priced, individual user offering. It gives pricing latitude for enterprise volume licenses.
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Do you also think $40K a year for Hubspot is insane? What about people who pay $1k in order to work on a field for 4 hours hitting a small ball with a stick? The truth is that there are people who value the marginal performance -- if you think it's insane, clearly it's not for you.
>What about people who pay $1k in order to work on a field for 4 hours hitting a small ball with a stick?
Those people want to purchase status. Unless they ship you a fancy bow tie and a wine tasting at a wood cabin with your chatgpt subscription this isn't gonna last long.
This isn't about marginal performance, it's an increasingly desperate attempt to justify their spending in a market that's increasingly commodified and open sourced. Gotta convince Microsoft somehow to keep the lights on if you blew tens of billions to be the first guy to make a service that 20 different companies are soon gonna sell for pennies.
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#394I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions.
But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two dozen or more files, PDFs, text, and give it a context, and then ask questions in this specific context over a period of week or longer, come back to it and continue the inquiry, all of this gives me superpowers. Feels like a handful of researchers at my fingertips that I can brainstorm with, that I can ask to review the documents, come up with answers to my questions, all of this is unbelievably powerful.
I‘d be ok with 40 or 50 USD a month for one user, alas Claude won’t offer it. So I pay 166 Euros for five seats and use one. Because it saves me a ton of work.
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#395The main difficulty when pricing a monthly subscription for "unlimited" usage of a product is the 1% of power users who use have extreme use of the product that can kill any profit margins for the product as a whole. Pricing ChatGPT Pro at $200/mo filters it to only power users/enterprise, and given the cost of the GPT-o1 API, it wouldn't surprise me if those power users burn through $200 worth of compute very, very…
I believe they have many data points to back up this decision. They surely know how people are suing their products.
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#396I've been considering the $20 a month thing, but 200 ... now it kinda makes that "woah that is a lot" $20 a month look cheap, but in a bad way.
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I would pay $200 for GPT4o. Since GPT4, ChatGPT is absolutely necessary for my work and for my life. It changed every workflow like Google changed. I'm paying $20 to remove ads from youtube which I watch may be once a week, so $20 for ChatGPT was a steal.
That said, my "issue" might be that I usually work alone and I don't have anyone to consult with. I can bother people on forums, but these days forums are pretty much dead and full of trolls, so it's not very useful. ChatGPT was that thing that allows me to progress in this environment. If you work in Google and can ask Rob Pike about something, probably you don't need ChatGPT as much.
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#398I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…
I bet you never get tired of being told LLMs are just statistical computational curiosities.
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#399Earlier quoted context omitted.
The difference between a person and a bot is that a person has a stake in the outcome. A bot is like a person who's already put in their two weeks notice and doesn't have to be there to see the outcome of their work.
That’s still amazing quality output for someone working for under $1/hour?
It's not obvious that one should prefer that, versus not having that output at all.
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#400Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: Who earns (other than C-level) $150 an hour in a sane (non-US) world?
Most consultants with more than 3 years of experience are billed at $150/hr or more
Ironically, the freelance consulting world is largely on fire due to the lowered barrier of entry and flood of new consultants using AI to perform at higher levels, driving prices down simply through increased supply.
I wouldn't be surprised if AI was also eating consultants from the demand side as well, enabling would-be employers to do a higher % of tasks themselves that they would have previously needed to hire for.