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Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by goosedragons »

iknowstuff wrote: post #211
skeeter2020 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first apps I need to replace on any new windows machine (after installing FF) are Paint, Notepad, Photo/Image viewer and MediaPlayer . The funny thing is their replacements are all ancient as well, and still awesome because they've been thoughtfully upgraded over the years without destroying their conceptual integrity, or they've just been "done" for decades. Paint.Net (v3), Notepad++, IrfanViewer, Foobar2000 & V…

My main OS is macOS but I use Windows for gaming. The reliance on crusty old ass applications like those on Windows is actually kinda depressing. Everything newer is garbage for various reasons, and everything old is ugly as hell. Macs have Pixelmator and Preview for images, Apple Notes is actually very decent for actual notes, Zed for nerdy text files, QuickTime/IINA for video (or hell even VLC looks much nicer than…

Pixelmator is over 15 years old, Preview predates OS X as it was a part of NeXTStep.

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Post by fragmede »

couscouspie wrote: post #387
iknowstuff wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My main OS is macOS but I use Windows for gaming. The reliance on crusty old ass applications like those on Windows is actually kinda depressing. Everything newer is garbage for various reasons, and everything old is ugly as hell. Macs have Pixelmator and Preview for images, Apple Notes is actually very decent for actual notes, Zed for nerdy text files, QuickTime/IINA for video (or hell even VLC looks much nicer than…

What is depressing about old tools? I love the GNU coreutils and am really passionate about them. They are old, but near perfect.

I don't know about depressing, but eg grep is slow and lacks some quality of life features working with modern toolchains (aka git, but also codebase size). ag and rg both read .gitignore if there is one (disable with rg -uuu); for today's multi-language repos, ag can look inside a specific language's files eg ag --go or ag --js.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by SnorkelTan »

rqtwteye wrote: post #236

This seems to be a common trend everywhere. Instead of improving core functionality they add the latest buzzword tech, no matter it make sense or not. I am user of GaiaGPS to plan outdoors trips. Same there: the app is good but has some problems. Instead of fixing the problems they added social functionality which nobody really wants.

The chips are improving. They are adding dedicated AI co-processors/cores. Every major chip developer is moving towards providing functionality that supports running AI models locally on chip. Eventually all of these use cases will be run locally, fast, and power efficiently w/o network hops. Waiting until that happens to develop these features puts you ages behind everyone else. It's just another iteration of the thin-client to fat client product cycle, and for AI, it's very early.

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Post by greenmartian »

AlexandrB wrote: post #340
BobaFloutist wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VLC is pretty damn crusty, especially to anyone not familiar with that particular....design ethos. Don't get me wrong, it's an incredible endeavor and the developers deserve endless praise, but for people that aren't already familiar with navigating things like GIMP, KDE, Open/LibreOffice, it's not especially welcoming.

I agree. I too am a VLC hater. It's not just crusty, but often buggy and worse[1] than alternatives (I use Media Player Classic Home Cinema myself, despite it being dead for almost a decade). VLC is also ugly in a non-platform specific way. It's like a web app developed before web apps were a thing and doesn't feel at home in either Windows, MacOS, or Linux. Having said that, VLC is still my last resort when nothing…

MPC-HC ain't dead. It's still getting a couple updates a month.

https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by okdood64 »

jonwinstanley wrote: post #120

Soon there won't be any safe place on Windows to copy and paste some random text/password/key that I don't want to get uploaded to some cloud service, or screenshotted and "analysed".

I don't understand why people still use Windows; especially after the whole Recall debacle.

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Post by ankurdhama »

If you listen to Satya Nadella various talks/interviews you will realize that he think AI is the next major platform and we know MS lost the last major platform i.e mobile. So in his vision he wants MS to be the major player in this next platform shift and the way they are doing it is by putting AI in every nook and corner of their OS and apps. The only issue is that AI (in its current form) is NOT a platform but more of a "user interface based on natural language".

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Post by Izkata »

jl6 wrote: post #112

Microsoft's neglect of Notepad paved the way for Notepad++. Now they're uplifting Notepad. Perhaps this will create room for a Notepad--.

A project exists with that name but seems to be the opposite:

https://github.com/cxasm/notepad--

https://sourceforge.net/projects/notepad-dd/

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by wpm »

_1tem wrote: post #69

Why do writing tools have to be a feature of every app instead of an operating-system wide tool like Apple Intelligence? Makes no sense whatsoever to just "sprinkle AI everywhere" except for specialized use cases.

Despite how far its rotted, macOS is built on object-oriented APIs. Making Apple Intelligence work for text means adding it to NSText and whatever crappy UIKit objects came over with Catalyst/SwiftUI, not every single app individually bespoke.
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