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Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by anonfordays »

otterley wrote: post #367
anonfordays wrote: post #365

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>I'm pretty sure no jury would agree with that. I'm pretty sure every jury would agree with that. >I admit I'm not a Tesla owner and don't have direct experience, but I do see posts that contradict this assertion: Those posts prove my point exactly. One of them literally states: "Yes, but usually when I sign something for warranty work. The dollar amt on the paper is $0."

We are in agreement about the bottom line. Again, the poster did not claim they paid out of pocket for any of this work. The experience of whether they're seeing estimated values (even if not paid) seems to vary by customer.

>Again, the poster did not claim they paid out of pocket for any of this work.

Yes they did:

We have put roughly 10k into this truck for service.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by mbrumlow »

thejazzman wrote: post #344
mbrumlow wrote: post #285

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I hate this argument in business. A goal not some metric that has to be met. It’s a goal, an aspiration to do something, not a deadline. Most businesses ran by people who use goals as deadlines fail horridly. This is one thing many of the major companies that are ultra successful have in common. They are ran by people who set goals, failed to meet the goal - and continued to move forward.

Selling a product for money and then delivering the product without those features is fraud. The gymnastics this cult does is infuriating. The dude lies. Constantly. I own 3 teslas. I like the cars. Doesn't mean the CEO doesn't constantly lie and under deliver. It doesn't matter if the car cures cancer. It doesn't make his past lies become truths.

Name me a product that Tesla has sold that did not meet the spec advertised on the buy page with the price?

You can’t. What you can do is name cases where Tesla says they aspire to make “X” and er got “Y” by the time we could buy it.

The closest thing we have to what you describe is FSD or whatever they call it. And it was sold as hardware that would be used once they got it working.

The only gymnastics we have here is you trying to make a case for fraud. You are the one acting cult like, and yes it is infuriating to us who are not obsessed with Elon.

I don’t know dem own a Tesla product, and probably never will.

Furthermore my comment was completely disconnected from Tesla and was an attack on a style of thinking related to all companies. Then you who are obsessed with Elon brought all that baggage into it simply because you worried that a sound and logical comment might not align with your view of the person you are obsessed with.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by otterley »

anonfordays wrote: post #391
otterley wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are in agreement about the bottom line. Again, the poster did not claim they paid out of pocket for any of this work. The experience of whether they're seeing estimated values (even if not paid) seems to vary by customer.

>Again, the poster did not claim they paid out of pocket for any of this work. Yes they did: We have put roughly 10k into this truck for service.

I should have been clearer: they didn't claim they paid for the work that was covered under the warranty. Slashed tires and other vandalism and body damage due to accidents obviously aren't covered and those repairs would have to be borne by the customer. (It's also true that those things aren't the results of defects and thus aren't directly Tesla's fault.)

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by forgetfreeman »

theonething wrote: post #133
forgetfreeman wrote: post #56

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I actually saw one in person for the first time a couple days ago. I had a great laugh at the owner's expense. He could better serve his desperate need for attention at a fraction of the price by hosting a block party or driving a 70s F150 or similar (aka an actual truck). Unlike many folks who think these things are trash I'm delighted they're on the market. Characterless voids trying to trowel over their emptiness…

quite hinged, your comment.

If you think sneering at conspicuous consumption is hinged I've got some stuff I'd like to sell you.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by golol »

sakjur wrote: post #333
golol wrote: post #277

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Easy to say but does that really represent the statistical reality? Does higher acceleration cause more accidents? Sports cars have more accidents. Sports cars that are driven by young people that want to show off. Cars with a high top speed. But do you think people will try to corner with the Cybertruck like they're racing? Yes they will spend a few seconds after each stop sign at hogher speed than if they weren't d…

You don’t need data to be terrified of something. Even so there is research on how car design impact road safety, and if there’s a sliver of doubt that that’s sufficient to justify banning the Cybertruck from public roads the tests to prove its safety should be done in a way where gathering statistics doesn’t mean killing people.

>tests to prove its safety should be done in a way where gathering statistics doesn’t mean killing people.

Honestly, I believe that in the noisy world this is exactly how you do things. You try it out. We've done it for hundreds of years. If you have good reason to expect drastically effects you are careful of course. I don't think there is a good reason to expect drastic effects from the Cybertruck. If you were wrong you will quickly see problems arise and can cancel your trial. If nothing bad happens, seems alright. This is basically how we've dealt with the safety aspect of engineering and medicine since forever. You can never perfectly predict what's gonna happen.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by oglop »

sashank_1509 wrote: post #40

The weird thing I’ve seen is in almost all the online forums I visit, like Reddit, YouTube comment sections, parts of twitter, hacker news, the cybertruck is universally panned. Yet when I drove a cybertruck, the number of onlookers who approached me inquiring about the car with excitement is unmatched with even a Lamborghini that I once rented. Shows how much of a bubble the internet alone is. MKBHD got the ratio’s…

lol. Judging a vehicle because people talked to you. Sad. You look like a chode driving that thing.

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Post by nolok »

CrimsonRain wrote: post #197
m463 wrote: post #70

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I think the truck is like dating an exciting but shallow person who doesn't care about you. The truck is extremely fast, with excellent steering, suspension and lots of other groundbreaking technology. But it is basically user-hostile. No dashboard, no stalks for turn signals or gear selection, and everything is on the central touchscreen. And that is super cluttered and impossible to do important things without look…

No dashboard, no stalks, no extra buttons are needed. The voice control works just fine.

Ah yes voice control, the one thing we have found to be worse than touchscreen to control a car's interface and serve no practical purpose over physical button beside looking pseudo better and saving you time on paper but not really.

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Post by nolok »

purplethinking wrote: post #355
hcarvalhoalves wrote: post #259

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I feel Tesla is a US bubble. Despite all the disproportionate media this brand and it’s CEO gets, in my country I haven’t even seen one in the street yet, but I see EV Volvo, Renault, Fiat, BYD, GWM and others daily.

Tesla Model Y is the most sold car in Europe right now. Not most sold EV, most sold CAR.

No, not right now. It was in 2023, by a thin margin,and that's soon 2 years ago.

In 2024, it's not even passing the top 5

https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2024-half-year-euro...

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Post by turtle4 »

harambae wrote: post #385
Fairburn wrote: post #371

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It is a truck in name only. Hardly usable as a truck

Some of us need trucks purely to move dirtbikes and snowmobiles and it will do that. Add in the requirement of "electric" and there are cheaper options but none that are cheap that are also allowed to be sold in the USA (remains to be seen how much you can get away with temporarily moving a BYD Shark over the border from Mexico and never bringing it back)

Does the ford f150 lightning not count for some reason?
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