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Psilocybin bests SSRI for major depression in first long-term comparison

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> The only valuable conversation about such research is an objective discussion of the quality of the study at hand. No People's lived experience is very useful

Those are called anecdotes. Empirically, they're usually not nearly as useful as people think. People are on average unreliable observers of their own experiences. Much better than individual anecdotes are collections of anecdotes that are searchable and somewhat categorized. A lot of old school drug forums provide this. Much better still is systematically varying data and taking statistics to separate signal from no…

Yep. I think anecdotal evidence is actually ranked as one of the lowest forms of evidence if I recall correctly from graduate school.

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Really? name one.

Dissociatives would work, like dextromethorphan or ketamine. Psychedelics are a subset of hallucinogens.

ketamine is great for depression

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just consider, if it's so powerful in adjusting his brain, it's probably equally powerful in adjusting anybody's brain, and what if your brain doesn't need adjustment? there's no reason to think it's "idempotent" so to speak. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idempotence is the property of certain operations in mathematics and computer science whereby they can be applied multiple times without changing the result beyond…

I suspect there’s a lot of self selection at work already. The vast majority of people don’t jump straight into psilocybin and LSD, they progress to them by taking softer drugs like alcohol and cannabis. I think a lot of people who don’t need “adjustment” figure out drugs don’t do much for them and stop before they take the intense psychedelics, or they figure it out at lower doses and stop before they take the inten…

Maybe this is anecdotal, but I feel this is dependent on age. What you describe would have been true when I was younger. But nowadays I know quite some people who never used cannabis / hardly drink any alcohol, and still tell me they'd like to try LSD or shrooms some day.

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One big problem with SSRIs is that they cause a massive down-swing when you’re coming off of them and they take two weeks to start working. I guess that’s two problems. If they were otherwise comparable and lacked those two negatives (which it seems they do) it’d be worth exploring them. They should certainly be reclassified away from schedule 1 since they clearly have a medical use. I think it’s also clear they’re not addictive.

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Every psychodelic experience is unique & random, even if the title was the opposite and in their study SSRI turned out to be better doesn't mean it will be better for you.

From my personal experience, SSRI (zoloft) felt like a temporary coffee-like stimulant. Psilocybin (or easier to handle synthetic analog 4-aco-dmt) provided short-acting relief from depression and some new perspectives. But ketamine is truly a magic pill if done right. After glow is about a month, and the trip takes 2-3 hrs max. FDA-approved, see Spravato. I feel like at some point ketamine therapy at scale would make SSRIs obsolete, it's just better and faster.

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