In that case, where can I apply for my licensing fee for my content they have scraped and trained on. List of crawlers for those who now want to block: https://platform.openai.com/docs/bots
I wonder how the AI/copyright arguments will play out in court.
"If I read your book and I have a photographic memory and can recall any paragraph do I need to pay you a licensing fee?"
"If I go through your library and count all the times that 'the' is adjacent to 'end' do I need to get your permission to then tell that number to other people?"
It's not baffling at all. It's unprecedented and it's hugely beneficial to our species. The anti-AI stance is what is baffling to me. The path trotten is what got us here and obviously nobody could have paid people upfront for the wild experimentation that was necessary. The only alternative is not having done it. Given the path it has put as in, people either are insanely cruel or just completely detached from reali…
> it's hugely beneficial to our species. Perhaps the biggest “needs citation” statement of our time.
I can easily imagine people X decades from now discussing this stuff a bit like how we now view teeth-whitening radium toothpaste and putting asbestos in everything, or perhaps more like the abuse of Social Security numbers as authentication and redlining.
Not in any weirdly-self-aggrandizing "our tech is so powerful that robots will take over" sense, just the depressingly regular one of "lots of people getting hurt by a short-term profitable product/process which was actually quite flawed."
P.S.: For example, imagine having applications for jobs and loans rejected because all the companies' internal LLM tooling is secretly racist against subtle grammar-traces in your writing or social-media profile. [0]
Scraping the entire internet for training data without regard for copyright or attribution - specifically to use for generative AI to produce similar content for profit. How this is being allowed to happen legally is baffling. It does suit the modus operandi of a number of American companies that start out as literally illegal/criminal operations until they get big and rich enough to pay a fine for their youthful mis…
It's not baffling at all. It's unprecedented and it's hugely beneficial to our species. The anti-AI stance is what is baffling to me. The path trotten is what got us here and obviously nobody could have paid people upfront for the wild experimentation that was necessary. The only alternative is not having done it. Given the path it has put as in, people either are insanely cruel or just completely detached from reali…
> and obviously nobody could have paid people upfront for the wild experimentation that was necessary.
I don't think this is the "ends justify the means" argument you think it is.
> Dismantling OpenAI is actually a business strategy for many other players now. Which ones exactly? NVIDIA is drinking sweet money from OpenAI. Microsoft & Apple are in cahoots with it. Meta/Facebook seems happy to compete with OpenAI on a fair playing field. Anthropic lacks the resources. Amazon doesn't seem to care. Google is asleep.
>NVIDIA is drinking sweet money from OpenAI. NVIDIA makes money from any company doing AI. I would be surprised if OpenAI was a whole digit percentage of their revenue. >Microsoft & Apple are in cahoots with it. Nope. Apple is using OpenAI to fill holes their current model is not good at. This doesn't sound like a long-term partnership. >Meta/Facebook seems happy to compete with OpenAI on a fair playing field. They w…
I disagree, with AI the dynamics are very different from recording. Current AI can greatly elevate what a beginning artist can produce. If you have a decent grasp of proportions, perspective and good ideas, but aren't great at drawing, then using AI can be a huge quality improvement. On the other hand if you're a top expert that draws quickly and efficiently it's quite possible that AI can't do very much for you in a…
I think it will just emphasise different skills and empower creative fields which use art but are not art per se. If you're a movie director, you can storyboard your ideas easily, and even get some animation clips. If you're an artist with a distinct personal style, you're in a much better position too. And if you're a beginner who is just starting, you can focus on learning these skills instead of technical proficie…
Indeed. It is definitely going to be a net negative for the very talented drawers and traditional art creators, but it's going to massively open the field and enable and empower people who don't have that luck of the draw with raw talent. People who can appreciate, enjoy, and identify better results will be able to participate in the joy of creation. I do wish there was a way to have the cake and eat it too, but if we're forced to choose between a few Lucky elite being able to participate, and the rest of us relegated to watching, or having the ability to create beauty and express yourself be democratized (by AI) amongst a large group of people, I choose the latter. I fully admit though that I might have a different perspective where I in the smaller, luckier group. I see it as yet another example of the Rawlsian Veil of Ignorance. If I didn't know where I was going to be born, I would be much more inclined on the side of wider access.