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Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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It says a lot about the HN community that the overwhelming majority of people here seemingly emphasize with the person being blocked rather than the person doing the blocking.

Indeed, blocking means blocking and the person posting content must have the tools to curate who can access their content. This is not just me saying it because it sounds logical, it's also a requirement for platforms with user generated content for various app stores, the DSA in the EU etc.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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post #373

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i think there should be an option, where you automatically downvote a blocked user's post/comment, even without seeing it. If that user doesn't have many people blocking them, then this will barely affect the votes. If they have tonnes of blockers, then would indicate that they probably deserved it, and the downvotes would make sense anyway. It would prevent echo chambers from forming.

On small sub-reddits even something like -5 votes will have a huge impact. If you are on a bigger forum, block a few because you just don't want to see their posts. Or they are bots. Suddenly you have huge problems on small subreddits. And I don't see a huge benefit to it. People clean up their block list maybe? But for what.

> -5 votes will have a huge impact.

if the sub is small, then 5 blockers might be significant.

I suppose the arguments regarding the bot accounts are valid, as it allows for manipulation. Presumably reddit should be blocking bots, but of course that's wishful thinking.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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post #360

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There seems to be an extreme obsession with blocking, banning, censoring, demonetizing, deplatforming, firing, unbanking, un-personing. And this is from people whose opininions already completely dominate mainstream media and all of public life. This is not healthy.

There is no site more perfectly suited to turning people off the fundamental democratic value of free speech than Elon Musk's Twitter, circa 2024. The front page is just brazen anti-Semitism and racism at this point. And no, I am not referring to some reasoned debate of the Gaza War or social issues, I mean literal memes with hook-nosed men, their captions explicitly referring to the Protocols of the Elder of Zion. I…

>If Gen Z or their successors kill the First Amendment, it will be because Elon groomed them to think that this deluge of darkness is what free speech is all about. It is not.

Cut the melodrama. This isn’t the first time there has been racism on the Internet. MySpace and then Facebook were both loaded with it and 4chan has been there all along. The Internet in the late 2000s was far less filtered than X today.

You’re just dealing with coming down from a massive swing to extreme censorship in the 2010s so it seems scary.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Going to have to agree with this. A semi-related anecdote- I spend an embarrassing amount of time on a music message board with a probably ~97% American user base. It's dedicated to a specific American band but is bizarrely active considering there has not been a UI update of note for maybe 20 years. Parts of the UI have always been frustrating but the culture within the community was palpable and a lot of people gre…

Moderation is a double edged sword, I get Musk stance, he is just pro freedom. Of course bots and state's funded campaigns on internet are to be hunted because they prevent everyone's freedom but beside that people should be free to say the dumbest possible things. Whatever it hurts someone else, that's the only way to make people change their mind.

Musk is first to silence people who say things he does not like.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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post #337

It says a lot about the HN community that the overwhelming majority of people here seemingly emphasize with the person being blocked rather than the person doing the blocking.

I do not side with the person who has been blocked, but it is very obvious to me that nothing in the world would prevent them from seeing my public posts

Why? For me it's the opposite. "Public" is a label for a specific type of audience - everyone with access to my feed/timeline (as opposed to a subset like friends, followers etc). If I block someone, they no longer have access to my timeline.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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post #345

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> X Formerly Known As Twitter Xitter for short. > I would intend that people I had blocked are still able to see the message (and make copies of it) if they wish; I would block them because I don't want to see their messages and I do not want to allow them to send messages to me I don't. There are different reasons to block and musk only sees the political one. On personal level I may want to have a public account fo…

And now imagine that you are small city governor or fire department, person who manages profile blocked certain individuals because of inappropriate messages, spam, whatever - now potentially important local news cannot be delivered to that person. Yeah, I know, I know public institutions shouldn't use and empower private platforms but this is reality we live in.

If proprietary platform like twitter being official channel for government is a dream of Musk he should give official accounts special status where blocking is disabled both ways but we know he'll never do that

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Reddit does it similar. When someone blocks you, you can't see their comments. You can't even respond to other people who wrote on your threads. For example if you would block someone, they could not reply on this/my post here, because it's based on yours. Helps things from escalating I guess.

I've found in some communities the most caustic, snappy, and prolific commentors will block you the moment you disagree with them. The result is that everyone who disagrees with them is eventually blocked, and their snappy comments sit at the top of threads, uncontested.

On reddit, people use it to pretend to "win" arguments by appearing to get the last word (post a reply then immediately block).

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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post #337

It says a lot about the HN community that the overwhelming majority of people here seemingly emphasize with the person being blocked rather than the person doing the blocking.

It says that the HN community is more rational than most? It's not about empathy, it's about common sense - you can't prevent someone from seeing your PUBLIC posts just by blocking their account... at most you can make it slightly more inconvenient.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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I do not use The X Formerly Known As Twitter, but if I write a message that is intended to be public (regardless of what service it is on), I would intend that people I had blocked are still able to see the message (and make copies of it) if they wish; I would block them because I don't want to see their messages and I do not want to allow them to send messages to me. I would also not want the number of users who blo…

agree, plus since it's trivially easy to get around the block it's almost pointless

that person no longer exists to me, their opinion of me doesn't exist, whether non-person reads my posts or not is uninteresting to me

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