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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by lucianbr »

telotortium wrote: post #335
lucianbr wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why are the homeless "advocates" such a force? Don't the rest of the people living and voting in the city outnumber them by multiple orders of magnitude?

In politics generally, there's much more incentive for a small interest group to lobby[1] or advocate for a policy that provides a concentrated benefit to the group, than there is for the whole population to fight back to eliminate the small per-capita cost of the policy to the population. Also, many of the voters in SF have at least progressive sympathies, which include not "oppressing" groups that are seen to be "o…

Sounds like the sympathies of the majority of the voters play a significant role, and not only the "advocates", as the other commenter suggested. Or at least as I understood it.

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Post by FireBeyond »

FireBeyond wrote: post #296
15155 wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fascinating how suicides are creatively included in "gun violence."

Like how suicide by opiates is included in "overdoses"?

To be clear on this - people pout about these suicides being considered a firearm death. They are.

They may not be "gun violence" against another, but they're still a firearm death.

Just as someone (and I've seen it several times, as a paramedic) who takes a lethal amount of opiates to commit suicide rather than for recreational use is still considered an overdose death.

It's not "recreational drug abuse", but it's still an overdose death.

Agree or object to both, or none. Guns don't just get a special pass such that shooting yourself with a pistol is somehow not a death by firearm.

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Post by lokar »

aqme28 wrote: post #346
anotherhue wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

during one visit to those Zendesk offices an urgent slack message (verily) was sent out advising everyone to get away from the windows, as there was shooting outside. About 10 minutes later also via Slack the CEO announced not to worry it was simply one drug dealer shooting another drug dealer in the back. Everyone could return to their desks. I never understood why the company would put its employees in danger until…

My first week working in a finance firm in midtown Manhattan there was a significant shooting. These things happen everywhere (edit: in the US) unfortunately. I'm not convinced that a more suburban location that forces people to drive would actually be any safer.

You really need to normalize crime rates by population (including commuters) and avoid focusing on anecdotes

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Post by awb »

dang wrote: post #366
robxorb wrote: post #363

Why is the title of the HN post changed to read "Twitter", when the linked article title states correctly "X", and is otherwise identical?

I did that because I don't know anyone who doesn't still call it Twitter.

X (formerly Twitter) is how I’ve seen it cited elsewhere.

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Post by autoexecbat »

robxorb wrote: post #363

Why is the title of the HN post changed to read "Twitter", when the linked article title states correctly "X", and is otherwise identical?

It ultimately doesn't matter what a company wants to call themselves if the vast public just uses the old name

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Post by UncleOxidant »

daghamm wrote: post #260
bcx wrote: post #130

It’s been a while since we had sf offices, but back when we did sf had a pretty aggressive additional payroll tax and gross receipts taxes. I’d imagine this is likely a factor in the decision. I know for a while they were waiving some of these taxes for companies who set up offices in certain parts of the city. E.g. zendesk got a big tax break for its market street location near the tenderloin. As for commutes, I’d b…

"I’ve never worked for musk or his managers — but I’d assume that if folks are high output he would not care how often they were in the office" I have and believe me it's kind of random and dependent on the mood. The problem is that even if you are a 100x engineer the guy in the bad mood today may not know or care who you are.

I can't understand why anyone would willingly take a job at one of his companies (but especially Xitter) at this point just knowing what's publicly known... but it's also not difficult to find someone who has worked for him and can tell you what that experience was like.

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Post by rvz »

I have to say, the anti-elon meltdown vs the elon simps is quite entertaining to watch and it goes both ways.

Why are you getting so upset, angry, emotional and screaming over someone that doesn't care about you?

Very unhealthy folks. but regardless, until the next time you will talk about Twitter / X again.

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Post by seizethecheese »

janalsncm wrote: post #371

Had a recruiter call with Twitter a few months ago. Mandatory in office 5 days per week. Among other things, an hour commute both ways to work was not acceptable. Maybe they will have better luck in Santa Clara. I don’t buy any of the flamebait reasons for leaving SF. Reason 1 is money and reason 2 is talent pool.

I’ve had several meetings, either in Twitter office or around it, and the street scene is very bad in that part of SF. If the claim is that this is a motivation for the move, it certainly passes the sniff test for me.

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Post by nemo44x »

rhinoceraptor wrote: post #360
anon291 wrote: post #273

Realistically, X is better than its ever been; community notes have been a game-changer in terms of fact-checking. Higher quality and much more balanced.

I see much more right wing content boosted by the algorithm now, and the paid checkmarks ensures every tweet's replies have low quality and bot replies filtered to the top. The bot problem is also infinitely worse now, I rarely post anything so I have about two dozen legitimate followers, mostly people I know, and then I have a few hundred obvious bot account followers.

I think it's because Twitter doesn't bury and ban moderate and conservative opinions now. It feels like there's more balance today. I'd say in my experience I've seen more of the far left voices I follow move away from the platform (although many moved back) and they're not as powerful not that the Twitter team isn't backing them exclusivly.
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