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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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The primary was a coronation, not a contest.

The word your looking for here is 'legitimacy.' It's what political power is made of.

Biden lost it, by staying hidden through the primaries and then showing himself to be obviously unfit once he finally showed up for a debate.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Not going to happen, but I wonder how a mixed party ticket would do. Kamala (or whoever) + Mitt Romney as VP ? Has it ever been done? Would it work to attract the center/swing vote, or more likely to be a negative?

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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He can do president duties, while the candidate they choose go around collecting votes.

That's the thing. If he's unfit to serve 6 months from now, then how is he fit to serve now? He didn't endorse Kamala in his letter. We'll see what comes out of the spin cycle this week. e: looks like Biden endorsed Kamala according to other publications

He’s mildly unfit to serve now but there’s reasonable doubt he’ll be at all fit in a few years. That would be what the more rational people should be thinking. It’s not about day one it’s about year two, etc.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Be skeptical. Why are announcements being delivered from the social media staff via twitter ? Where is the President ?

Why are posting on HN? You should be escaping the feds. They’re after you! Hurry and wrap your head in foil so they don’t read your thoughts. And destroy the computer you’re posting from so they don’t trace your IP. You’re welcome.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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He did the right thing. DNC needs a policy where they won’t endorse candidates who will be over 65 on the day they take office. Nobody in their 80s should be running for office. By then they had their chance to influence the next generation… or not.

Better yet, this needs to be the law of the land for all parties. Once someone reaches 60-65 or so, they need to step aside and serve at most in an advisory role. Let the younger crowd take the helm of leadership.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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> It’s a miracle, folks. Donald told the truth for once. It’s the most important election of our lifetimes. And I will win it. Curiously, his tweet from just 18 hours ago seemed like he was still in the race. I wonder what changed.

They hadn't told the people running his Twitter account yet? There was already an incident [1] where his press secretary tweeted about running for president on her own account, so she or her people are presumably in charge of it. 1. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

They found out on Twitter: https://x.com/politico/status/1815098672113402138

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> A fair number of Dems have seemingly engaged with the prospect of Biden stepping aside as a gateway to their wildest fantasies Uh, who? Certainly there are people who have their own opinions out there somewhere, but virtually every name brand democrat over the past few hours has either explicitly endorsed Harris or notably avoided boosting a different candidate. And absolutely no one is going even the tiniest bit n…

I'm not talking about prominent Democratic politicians/strategists/pundits for that part; it's just a sentiment I've seen a whole lot of as someone whose social media diet is dominated by left-leaning spaces. There's a huge appetite for the perfect candidate who can (in fantasy-land) ensure that Trump is defeated for all time.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

Simplest may not be best here. Is Harris the person who is most likely to get people to the polls and vote Dem? Is she someone who can convert independent/undecided voters? etc. IMO those are not easy "yes, absolutely" answers. Does the Democratic party have anyone in the wings who is more likely to win than Harris?

Maybe? Gretchen Whitmer might be a strong candidate, off the top of my head. But I'm struggling to think of a nationally known candidate with super-strong positives that would be a viable alternative. (That's also true for the GOP IMO if somehow Trump was out.)

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Shouldn't he resign and let Kamala step in?

Ordinarily, yes. But she doesn't poll well with a lot of key demographics due to her tough on crime stance as a DA. Making her president would mean she'd be the presumptive nominee, and I think the party has more optimal choices lined up. This election will come down to four battleground states. Those are the only states and battles that matter.

Polls indicate Harris is holding her own, and it's clear that voters seeking an alternative to Trump have already found it in the Biden-Harris ticket. By selecting Harris as his running mate, Biden has given them a viable choice. Now, it's essential for Biden to see this through and commit to the path he's chosen. Ultimately, he should resign at a time of Harris' choosing, ensuring a seamless transition and maintaining the momentum they've built together.
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