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10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by sensanaty »

TheRoque wrote: post #321
labrador wrote: post #107

I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

> there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success And I find it so tragic. It means that the best elements of a given country are being sucked out of it. How can this country ever get better if the best elements just leave it ? Immigration exists because some parts of the world just suck, with corrupt governments, wars, you name it. I don't see how anyone can be ha…

Frankly, my home country doesn't deserve my brain, nor the brain of anyone else willing and able to leave it.

It's a nice sentiment, but you also can't ignore that, if people like myself are willing to go through the oftentimes extremely stressful task of emigrating with all the things that entails, there's probably a reason for it. It's not like you can just pick up and leave, after all

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by toomuchtodo »

hnpolicestate wrote: post #292
michaelhoney wrote: post #286

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the obsession with gun rights is doing your country far more harm than highly intelligent immigrants ever will

I honestly don't see it. Statistically or otherwise. Even if it were. It's a protected unalienable right. Cannot under any circumstances be circumvented. In my opinion of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_culture_in_the_United_Stat...

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-gun-becam...

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/13/key-facts...

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/fourth-july-musings-am...

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by wildylion »

epolanski wrote: post #178
kjellsbells wrote: post #137

The problem commonly skated over is that two views cam be true at once. For example: - the "Batista" regime was dictatorial and repressive. The people fought back with Castro. The first wave of people to land in Miami were essentially the moneyed class who lost everything. Unsurprisingly they hate the Castro regime and its descendents. The US government were happy to accommodate them under the guise of anti communism…

> the "Castro" regime is dictatorial and repressive. As someone whose family comes from the former Soviet union, and has friends that come from other repressive places let me tell you that this really doesn't matter. Economy and how you are doing are what matters in the day to day life of people. People really don't think about the oppression or lack of elections, they care how much they need to suffer to put food on…

> Economy and how you are doing are what matters in the day to day life of people.

Very much so. Look at how people in Krasnodar started protesting after they lost power for 10 hours. After 2.5 years of Putin's war.

> The average Joe does not care about politics

Sadly, true. My parents blame everything on 'queer Westerners', while turning literally a blind eye to the torture of those who were against Putin. Might have a point though - my grandmother's family wouldn't have stayed alive if they weren't silent in the 1930s... she remembers how her building was 'purged' of mostly intelligentsiya.

My friends are oppressed and many can't return home. _I_ can't return home because my country will happily jail me for who I am, literally (I'm queer)

My country lost any chances of becoming a nice place to live for the next 100 years. AND IS THIS THE FUTURE MY FAMILY WANTED FOR ME?!!!.

I... I don't know what to feel anymore. I left the day after the war started. My friends turned refugees. Countless civilians dead. Bombed by my own country. Sometimes I wish Russia was nuked out of existence, and I wish I was at the ground zero. Sometimes I wish Sun went nova and wiped any and all life because life is overrated and unnededed in this universe that was meant to be cold and lifeless forever.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by sangnoir »

hnpolicestate wrote: post #292
michaelhoney wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the obsession with gun rights is doing your country far more harm than highly intelligent immigrants ever will

I honestly don't see it. Statistically or otherwise. Even if it were. It's a protected unalienable right. Cannot under any circumstances be circumvented. In my opinion of course.

> Cannot under any circumstances be circumvented.

Tangentially - I find it fascinating how the originalists on the supreme court get fuzzy on what a "well regulated militia" meant at the time the amendment was written.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by tonynator »

maximinus_thrax wrote: post #377
tonynator wrote: post #326

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https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-arrests-171-noncitizen... > In fiscal year (FY) 2023 ERO arrested 73,822 noncitizens with criminal histories; this group had 290,178 associated charges and convictions with an average of four per individual. These included 33,209 assaults; 4,390 sex and sexual assaults; 7,520 weapons offenses; 1,713 charges or convictions for homicide; and 1,655 kidnapping offenses.

Try again, this doesn't support your initial statement.

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Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by foobarian »

deaddodo wrote: post #327
zozbot234 wrote: post #220

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WWI also forced the issue in a way that hasn't quite applied to other "ethnic" folks in the US. German immigrants, by and large, have been pushed towards forgetting their national culture altogether and assimilating into a newly-manufactured (by early 20th-century Progressives, no less), unified "White" identity.

There was as much (more, even) pressure on the Italians and Irish to do the same. But, to add to and enforce OP's point, their cultures were a larger schism away and they instead held on and entrenched their identities (to their objective detriment, no matter your moral stance). Meanwhile, Anglo, Franco, German, Dutch, etc cultures all kind of melded into the early "White American" identity; due to the general ease o…

How much difference is there, really, between various European nationalities? They are all white and Christian, using similar language and script, mostly the difference is in the Christian denomination.

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Post by topkai22 »

fjdjshsh wrote: post #92
energy123 wrote: post #49

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The US should oppose expansionist dictatorships that attempt to alter the status quo via forceful revisionism. That's Russia in Ukraine and China in Asia. I don't see how opposing Cuba achieves anything in the US interests.

I keep seeing this "expansionist dictatorship" applied to China when the USA is discussed. The USA has invaded plenty of countries in the last few decades, has a history of colonialism (Cuba, Philippines, Puerto Rico...sure, less than some European countries, but still). Which countries has China invaded in the past few decades?

Since WWII Tibet (annexed) Korea (at invitation of the North Korean government, but invaded South Korea) India USSR Vietnam

China has been fairly quiet and well behaved since 1980, but it is current quite publicly talking forcefully reintegrating Taiwan and has had continuous naval disputes in the South China Sea.

If we are talking about colonialism, “China” is a land empire that has absolutely dominated its neighbors and often conquered them. Making an apples to apples comparison to European colonialism isn’t very useful and I don’t pretend to know details, but historical China has plenty of expansionist and domineering episodes.

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Post by diffxx »

gottorf wrote: post #211
windowshopping wrote: post #192

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Why would we be opposed to unskilled immigrants? The majority of the people who came here from Europe in the 1700s and 1800s were laborers, factory workers, farmers, and other simple occupations. Why are we pulling up the ladder behind them? Did you want to freeze the US as it was circa 1950? Things change man. The US isn't forever, anymore than Rome was. You gotta stop trying to fight the current and pretending that…

> The majority of the people who came here from Europe in the 1700s and 1800s were laborers, factory workers, farmers, and other simple occupations. Why are we pulling up the ladder behind them? The welfare state did not exist in that time, so the cost of absorbing immigration was confined to acculturation. Immigrants had to quickly start generating value or perish. The incentives are radically different now and the…

Hobbes doesn't get the last word on the natural state of mankind. Thank God.

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Post by 39896880 »

gottorf wrote: post #201
labrador wrote: post #107

I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

> I'm not concerned about the crime You may not be concerned about the crime, but many voters are. The author of the article you linked to also exhorts the Somali immigrant community to not engage in crime. > because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency until the 2nd and 3rd generation is able to make it into established society. History and data from various European nations suggest that some immigrant groups…

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