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CrowdStrike Update: Windows Bluescreen and Boot Loops

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Re: CrowdStrike Update: Windows Bluescreen and Boot Loops

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post #349

So CrowdStrike is deployed as third party software into the critical path of mission critical systems and then left to update itself. It's easy to blame CrowdStrike but that seems too easy on both the orgs that do this but also the upstream forces that compel them to do it. My org which does mission critical healthcare just deployed ZScaler on every computer which is now in the critical path of every computer startin…

> So we need to hold regulatory bodies accountable as well - when they frame regulation such that organisations are cornered into this they get to be part of the culpability here too.

No, we need to hold Architects accountable, and this is the core of the issue. Creating systems with single, outsourced responsibility, in the critical path.

Re: CrowdStrike Update: Windows Bluescreen and Boot Loops

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Was involved in a "security mandated" mandatory rollout of Crowdstrike at my prior company.

This software was utter shit, and broke stuff all over the place. And installs itself as basically malware into critical paths everywhere. We objected to ever using it as a SPOF, but was overruled.

So yeah, not remotely surprised this happened.

Any kind of middleware/dynamic agent is highly suspect in my experience and to be avoided.

Re: CrowdStrike Update: Windows Bluescreen and Boot Loops

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post #117

Can someone explain what Crowdstrike actually is? Reading Wikipedia it seems to be some sort of anti-virus software?

Botnet that checks if your bots in the botnet act like bad bots and can be considered bad too. Also checking if some of your files match AV signature. Also reading all your logs if you really want.

Re: CrowdStrike Update: Windows Bluescreen and Boot Loops

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I'm just curious, don't they have something like "gradual rollout" to update their app? They just bulk-update simultaneously across entire agents? No way. Something is a bit off for me. But there are good lessons to learn for sure.

My company stays multiple versions behind latest for this exact reason, but we were still affected

Re: CrowdStrike Update: Windows Bluescreen and Boot Loops

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Took down our entire emergency department as we were treating a heart attack. 911 down for our state too. Nowhere for people to be diverted to because the other nearby hospitals are down. Hard to imagine how many millions of not billions of dollars this one bad update caused.

May I say that starting from "treating a heart attack" and ending up worrying about millions lost in productivity sounds a bit "wrong"?

Re: CrowdStrike Update: Windows Bluescreen and Boot Loops

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Workaround steps: https://www.reddit.com/r/crowdstrike/comments/1e6vmkf/commen...

What if you have 50k workstations? Can you even do this remotely?

The problem may be fixed but I can see some companies having a really shit weekend.

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