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[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/11/business/technology-micro...
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I imagine MS did a lot of user studies, and found that the average user could gain a lot from being able to ask the computer questions like "where's the word document for the summer anniversary party that I worked on a couple of weeks ago" or "the photo with the waterfall from our holiday in Greece in 2015 that I sent to Mary recently". Whether Recall in 2024 will be good enough to answer queries like that remains to…
> the photo with the waterfall from our holiday in Greece in 2015 that I sent to Mary recently Google Photos' search bar would be able to complete this search, since like 2015. Recall is completely overkill for this, like building a Death Star to swat a fly.
OneDrive doesn't have those problems, but its search is even more unreliable than that in Google Photos.
In both cases, the companies go out of their way to remove any controls over classification, or even user agency in search. Like, how hard would it be to list all of the categories it knows for users to browse, as well as on the photo page for users to know all the buckets the photos land in? They go out of their way to not do that.
Not that there are any better alternatives. For example, Samsung gallery app is just as bad, despite running locally on your phone, and on top of that, has data loss issues that the company refuses to admit or fix. For some reason, tech companies managed to fuck up something as basic as a photo gallery.
This is only the beginning of AI-centric offerings that were oversold and will be delayed or quietly abandoned. LLMs are nice for simple things, but they’ve already reached their limits. No amount of data will solve the iteration and complexity problems.
Wait how do we know that they’ve reached their limits?
Inherently, no LLM can provide a solution based on a creative logic it does not possess.
It’s that creative logic that has not been invented/automated yet.
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> This is a very cynical take. But also very correct. > I've not seen anything to make me think this feature is intended for surveillance as opposed to personal utility. Now that's a very naive take. They already use tons of telemetry to profie you for ads, snitch about you to your boss, share with partners, and so on, and only growing on that front. Plus all the cooperation they do with their favorite government.
But I pay for Windows! Surely, the existence of a preeminent financial contract with my benefactor means they would never sell me downriver to a suspicious partner. At least, that's the rationale I seem to hear these days from people that pay extra for peace-of-mind.
So you are:
- part of a captive audience
- with money so spare
- and for whom someone else has done pretty extensive KYC
Please ignore the sounds of drooling from the marketing department. We have called the cleaners.
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TPM protects against two main threat models: 1. You don't trust people with physical access to the computer. For the average home user, this means you consider the hardware owner a threat. 2. You want to protect against malware that has already taken complete control over the OS at runtime, and that wants to write itself to disk or the BIOS so that it survives a reboot. At this point, the attacker has already won, so…
For a mobile device, such as a laptop, lots of people other than the device owner will have physical access. The useful use-case of a TPM to me is the ability to encrypt my disk without having to type a decryption password each time I use it.
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If someone isn't technically literate enough to install Linux, they have three options: 1. Become technically literate enough to install Linux. Distros like Fedora are very easy to set up imo. 2. Ask someone else (relatives, local computer store, etc.) to set it up for you. 3. Continue using Windows.
Alright. What happens when something weird happens and you have to manually change the kernel or your hardware just isn't supported. I still wouldn't recommend Linux to most normal people. So your stuck with 3 realistic options. Mac. Chromebook. Windows. Chromebooks are actually really capable, but forget gaming or serious music creation. I've been using desktop Linux for over 15 years. It's still much more work than…
admittedly I did the installing part, but day to day use is not an issue any more. Ubuntu is hands down much more user friendly than Windows 11
This is only the beginning of AI-centric offerings that were oversold and will be delayed or quietly abandoned. LLMs are nice for simple things, but they’ve already reached their limits. No amount of data will solve the iteration and complexity problems.
The delay of Recall has absolutely nothing to do with technical limitations.
That they weren’t thinking it through is endemic of everything going on relating to LLMs.
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>Explain "hypocrisy". Recall is neither the first nor the last thing to record and store your actions and data. Why is it such a big problem? >Last, your statement falsely presupposes that most are happy with any tracking / intrusion. Most people are in fact fine with tracking, it has been demonstrated time and time again ad nauseum that the commons do not fucking care about digital privacy and especially if they are…
>Recall is neither the first nor the last thing to record and store your actions and data. Why is it such a big problem? Not agreeing to something that one does not want, in spite of tolerating qualitatively similar yet different objects that one also does want not want, is not "hypocrisy". It's a boundary. Are you unfamiliar with the concept of boundaries? I feel like I'm in an argument with a psychologically abusiv…
It is hypocrisy because there is no difference.
None of you have yet managed to answer what differences, if any, exist between Recall and All The Other Tracking Siphoning Things(tm) most of us either accept or tolerate.
>Your need to resort to such a non-agreeable tactic, alone, should inform you that your logic is the problem if not your motive or Recall itself.
I am asking you all a question and so far noone has managed to answer it. If none of you can answer what exactly about Recall makes it unacceptable unlike All The Others(tm), your logic is flawed.
Again: What is the difference? I do not see any.
>Do "most" people have the option of easily turning tracking completely off? Most are "fine" with it?
To the former: Actually, yes; just don't use the services or software that track you. As unenforcable as EULAs are, we all agree to them and it is made explicitly clear we can reject by not perusing.
To the latter: Also, yes; everyone happily uses iCloud and Google Photos and OneDrive and Dropbox and whatever else that tracks user data. To say nothing of Windows, and even Firefox (yes, Firefox phones home) that people happily use.
>And who are significant enough that you feel compelled to argue with them here.
Significant in the sense that apples are significant in an orchard, but apples only comprise a small portion of all trees and most trees don't care.
Likewise, techies bitch in tech circles and the noise is significant, but in the world at large techies are an insignificant minority as far as whether tracking is acceptable or not is concerned.
>ooph, the spicy language. I'm persuaded.
Whether I can persuade you is irrelevant, the commons still do not fucking care about digital privacy. Seriously. That's the reality. It's like how the Earth will spin and keep spinning no matter what any of us do.
>user data being sent to an off-site server
One of Recall's biggest marketing spiels is that it's all stored and processed locally. If Microsoft violates that marketing then they're guilty of false advertising and we can absolutely throw books at them for it, but that's tangential to the collection and processing of user data.
What a dumb feature. They had to get all that backlash to understand why everyone wouldn't want it. Is someone at Microsoft taking crazy pills to think consumers would be into that? They pulled the exact same shit 11 years ago when they launched the Xbox One as a "home media center" instead of a gaming console and it came with mandatory always-on internet connection, disc games DRM tied to a single console unable to…
It's not as stupid as you're making it out to be. For almost all tech companies - hell, almost all companies in the modern world - customer abuse is a first-class strategy. Some push it further than others, some are more blatant than others. It's probably not about them being insanely out-of-touch with what people want, but about them miscalculating what people will tolerate. Microsoft seems to be willing to push thi…