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Elon poached Ilya into OpenAI so I'm sure he will be happy to have him around. If we truly live in the "most entertainig outcome" timeline, this is definitely what's going to happen.
Musk involvement was with the money. I really doubt he researched enough to know who Ilya was at the time.
Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
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#393I wonder if he thinks LLMs are an AGI dead end and he's not interested in selling a product. There's some academic papers floating around coming to the same conclusion (no links. sorry, studying for a cert exam).
Isn't it consensus that AGI will never arise from LLMs?
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And none of them build AI companies in Toronto. I’m Canadian and disappointed at how ineffective we are at building successful companies.
Yeah Canada just spends a ton of taxpayer money to create great institutions like U of T and Waterloo, so that their graduates can all go to Silicon Valley and make 2-3x the money.
NB some actual Canadians in this thread have voiced this possibility.
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#395What next? Meta?
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Nope. His non-competes are likely very restrictive.
Non-competes were invalid in the state of California, and now are in the entirety of the U.S. [1] [1] https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/...
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And none of them build AI companies in Toronto. I’m Canadian and disappointed at how ineffective we are at building successful companies.
The Canadian Dream is to get a great education and then move of the US. You might want to blame the government or this or that but I think as a Canadian I've finally come to reckon with the fact that it's just not in the Canadian ethos to do risky things like make startups. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but they are very very rare. Canadian investors don't want to take big risks and the Americans are jus…
What’s the worst that happens? It doesn’t work out and after five years you go get a job in boring corp corp with an incredible skillset and vast life experience.
You’ve sacrificed some income perhaps, but so what? People make choices like that all the time. Your working career could easily be 40 or 45 years, 5 is not that much and it’s not like you went bankrupt. Your skillset might even mean you more than make up for lost time.
I don’t understand the talk of “risk” unless you’re Elon Musk betting the farm on your businesses and facing bankruptcy.
Work in your spare time until you have something Angel worthy, then get a modest salary to get to the next level and on you go. Or just bootstrap.
Is it easy? No, it’s the hardest thing you’ll ever do. Is it risky? Not so much.
So why do Canadians and Brits see it as a risky thing to do? I think they don’t. What they see is _uncertainty_ - where will I be in six months? What if it doesn’t work out? What if I fail and people judge me? They don’t like uncertainty. That is conservative with a small c. Probably it’s a cultural artefact rather than anything remotely rational. The problem is you end up in an equilibrium where the society is conservative (“what you wanna do wasting your time with that”) so the ambitious people just leave and go to somewhere like (parts of) the US where people want to change things, make things, improve the world. And the conservative society gets more conservative until it is ossified.
Startups carry high uncertainty but not high risk.
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#399Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI
#400Why now?