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Post by padolsey »

svag wrote: post #213

An interesting thing that Google does is to watermark the AI generated videos using the [SynthID technology]( https://deepmind.google/technologies/synthid/ ). It seems that the SynthID is not only for AI generated video but for image, text and audio.

It seems really clever, especially the encoding of a signature into LLM token probability selections. I wonder if synthid will trigger some standarization in the industry. I don't think there's much incentive to tho. Open-source gen AI will still exist. What does google expext to occur? I guess they're just trying to present themselves as 'ethically pursuing AI'.

Re: Veo

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Post by satvikpendem »

nialv7 wrote: post #239
satvikpendem wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's for paid users for now, not free. I have ChatGPT Pro and I can use the new model.

I am a free user and I have 4o. I think it is just a gradual roll out.

That sounds about right, it just seemed that everyone who replied above who had access to the new model were paid users.

Re: Veo

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Post by garyrob »

arcticbull wrote: post #354
salamo wrote: post #353

The first thing I will do when I get access to this is ask it to generate a realistic chess board. I have never gotten a decent looking chessboard with any image generator that doesn't have deformed pieces, the correct number of squares, squares properly in a checkerboard pattern, pieces placed in the correct position, board oriented properly (white on the right!) and not an otherwise illegal position. It seems to be…

Similarly the Veo example of the northern lights is a really interesting one. That's not what the northern lights look like to the naked eye - they're actually pretty grey. The really bright greens and even the reds really only come out when you take a photo of them with a camera. Of course the model couldn't know that because, well, it only gets trained on photos. Gets really existential - simulacra energy - maybe a…

Even in NY State, Hudson River Valley, I've seen them with real color. They're different each time.

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Post by [deleted] »

cryptoz wrote: post #388
paxys wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not true at all. I have seen northern lights with my own eyes that were more neon green and bright purple than any mainstream photo.

There's a middle ground here. I saw the northern lights with my own eyes just days ago and it was mostly grey. I saw some color. But when I took a photo with a phone camera, the color absolutely popped . So it may be that you've seen more color than any photo, but the average viewer in Seattle this past weekend saw grey-er with their eyes and huge color in their phone photos. (Edit: it was still super-cool even if gr…

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Re: Veo

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Post by goostavos »

cryptoz wrote: post #388
paxys wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not true at all. I have seen northern lights with my own eyes that were more neon green and bright purple than any mainstream photo.

There's a middle ground here. I saw the northern lights with my own eyes just days ago and it was mostly grey. I saw some color. But when I took a photo with a phone camera, the color absolutely popped . So it may be that you've seen more color than any photo, but the average viewer in Seattle this past weekend saw grey-er with their eyes and huge color in their phone photos. (Edit: it was still super-cool even if gr…

The hubris of suggesting that your single experience of vaguely seeing the northern lights one time in Seattle has now led to a deep understanding of their true "color" and that the other person (perhaps all other people?) must be fooling themselves is... part of what makes HN so delightful to read.

I've also seen the northern lights with my own eyes. Way up in the arctic circle in Sweden. Their color changes along with activity. Grey looking sometimes? Sure. But also colors that are so vivid that it feels like it envelopes your body.

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Post by blhack »

arcticbull wrote: post #354
salamo wrote: post #353

The first thing I will do when I get access to this is ask it to generate a realistic chess board. I have never gotten a decent looking chessboard with any image generator that doesn't have deformed pieces, the correct number of squares, squares properly in a checkerboard pattern, pieces placed in the correct position, board oriented properly (white on the right!) and not an otherwise illegal position. It seems to be…

Similarly the Veo example of the northern lights is a really interesting one. That's not what the northern lights look like to the naked eye - they're actually pretty grey. The really bright greens and even the reds really only come out when you take a photo of them with a camera. Of course the model couldn't know that because, well, it only gets trained on photos. Gets really existential - simulacra energy - maybe a…

Have you ever seen the Northern Lights with your eyes? If so I'm curious where you saw them.

I echo what some other posters here have said: they're certainly not gray.

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Post by [deleted] »

Octokiddie wrote: post #377

Oddly enough, I predict the final destination for this train will be for moving images to fade into the background. Everything will have a dazzling sameness to it. It's not unlike the weird place that action movies and pop music have arrived. What would have been considered unbelievable a short time ago has become bland. It's probably more than just novelty that's driving the comeback of vinyl.

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Post by porphyra »

arcticbull wrote: post #354
salamo wrote: post #353

The first thing I will do when I get access to this is ask it to generate a realistic chess board. I have never gotten a decent looking chessboard with any image generator that doesn't have deformed pieces, the correct number of squares, squares properly in a checkerboard pattern, pieces placed in the correct position, board oriented properly (white on the right!) and not an otherwise illegal position. It seems to be…

Similarly the Veo example of the northern lights is a really interesting one. That's not what the northern lights look like to the naked eye - they're actually pretty grey. The really bright greens and even the reds really only come out when you take a photo of them with a camera. Of course the model couldn't know that because, well, it only gets trained on photos. Gets really existential - simulacra energy - maybe a…

Human eyes are basically black and white in low light since rod cells can't detect color. But when the northern lights are bright enough you can definitely see the colors.

The fact that some things are too dark to be seen by humans but can be captured accurately with cameras doesn't mean that the camera, or the AI, is "making things up" or whatever.

Finally, nobody wants to see a video or a photo of a dark, gray, and barely visible aurora.

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Post by Kiro »

arcticbull wrote: post #354
salamo wrote: post #353

The first thing I will do when I get access to this is ask it to generate a realistic chess board. I have never gotten a decent looking chessboard with any image generator that doesn't have deformed pieces, the correct number of squares, squares properly in a checkerboard pattern, pieces placed in the correct position, board oriented properly (white on the right!) and not an otherwise illegal position. It seems to be…

Similarly the Veo example of the northern lights is a really interesting one. That's not what the northern lights look like to the naked eye - they're actually pretty grey. The really bright greens and even the reds really only come out when you take a photo of them with a camera. Of course the model couldn't know that because, well, it only gets trained on photos. Gets really existential - simulacra energy - maybe a…

Shouldn't the model reflect how it looks on video rather than our naked eye?

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Post by hoyd »

arcticbull wrote: post #354
salamo wrote: post #353

The first thing I will do when I get access to this is ask it to generate a realistic chess board. I have never gotten a decent looking chessboard with any image generator that doesn't have deformed pieces, the correct number of squares, squares properly in a checkerboard pattern, pieces placed in the correct position, board oriented properly (white on the right!) and not an otherwise illegal position. It seems to be…

Similarly the Veo example of the northern lights is a really interesting one. That's not what the northern lights look like to the naked eye - they're actually pretty grey. The really bright greens and even the reds really only come out when you take a photo of them with a camera. Of course the model couldn't know that because, well, it only gets trained on photos. Gets really existential - simulacra energy - maybe a…

I can see what you mean, and that the video is somewhat not what it would be like in real. I have lived in northern Norway most of my life, and watched Auroras a lot. It certainly look green and link for the most time. Fainter, it would perhaps sorry gray I guess? Red, when viewed from a more southern viewpoint..

I work at Andøya Space where perhaps most of the space research on Aurora had been done by sending scientific rockets into space for the last 60 yrs.

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