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Spotify demonetizes all tracks under 1k streams

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Post by FireInsight »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #224
FireInsight wrote: post #138

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This is exactly the reason why my preferred method of music consumption is piracy + Bandcamp. Every Bandcamp Friday (when Bandcamp doesn't take a cut) I buy about 2 to 6 albums I've listened to in the past month or a few. If an artist is not on Bandcamp, I'm less likely to listen to them, but if I do, I eventually pirate their stuff. All the music I buy and pirate is in FLAC and funneled into my local library, where…

Problem is that in take of new music is harder with these. I don’t know if YouTube is any better, but I have switched all of my music consumption to youtube music app with the premium subscription.

I don't require a huge intake of new music: I obsess over those dozen albums I really love a month, always listening to them in full and appreciating them as art. Browsing Bandcamp tags, music review and catalogue sites, and music critics album reviews is really all I need to get that hit.

But it's not for everyone ig...

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Post by FireInsight »

namanyayg wrote: post #245
FireInsight wrote: post #138

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This is exactly the reason why my preferred method of music consumption is piracy + Bandcamp. Every Bandcamp Friday (when Bandcamp doesn't take a cut) I buy about 2 to 6 albums I've listened to in the past month or a few. If an artist is not on Bandcamp, I'm less likely to listen to them, but if I do, I eventually pirate their stuff. All the music I buy and pirate is in FLAC and funneled into my local library, where…

Where do you store the files, how do you take your music with you on the go?

I have both a Jellyfin and a Subsonic-compatible (Gonic) server on my local NAS. Those are used for streaming and work anywhere where there's internet thanks to Tailscale. If I need to go offline, for a flight or something, I pick a dozen albums to download full quality to my phone and listen to them with the Retro music player.

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Post by FireInsight »

the_other wrote: post #252
FireInsight wrote: post #138

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This is exactly the reason why my preferred method of music consumption is piracy + Bandcamp. Every Bandcamp Friday (when Bandcamp doesn't take a cut) I buy about 2 to 6 albums I've listened to in the past month or a few. If an artist is not on Bandcamp, I'm less likely to listen to them, but if I do, I eventually pirate their stuff. All the music I buy and pirate is in FLAC and funneled into my local library, where…

> Every Bandcamp Friday (when Bandcamp doesn't take a cut) I It's great that BC still does BC Fridays... but if fans only buy music from BC on BC Fridays, BC will lose all revenue and will fold or resort to shitty tactics. BC are one of the few "good" businesses in this space, and have reached an impressive scale. I'd hate to see them fold. I reckon it's worth buying some music on normal days as well as BC Fridays.

Well, I do sometimes buy on normal days too, but not as much :)

And if they removed BCFs or took a small cut I wouldn't stop buying from them either.

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Post by kderbyma »

friend_and_foe wrote: post #389

Here we go, Spotify coming in hot with it's own adpocalypse. There just isn't enough ad money to go around. What can you do? Targeted advertising is a bubble, at scale it provides little additional return and the industry is overvalued. The only thing that has been propping it up is startups looking for quick bucks to please investors, in the long run it was always going to collapse.

yup. their API is a joke and they neutered it for cost savings....not a sign that their ads are successful.

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ornornor wrote: post #253
FireInsight wrote: post #138

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This is exactly the reason why my preferred method of music consumption is piracy + Bandcamp. Every Bandcamp Friday (when Bandcamp doesn't take a cut) I buy about 2 to 6 albums I've listened to in the past month or a few. If an artist is not on Bandcamp, I'm less likely to listen to them, but if I do, I eventually pirate their stuff. All the music I buy and pirate is in FLAC and funneled into my local library, where…

> All the music I buy and pirate is in FLAC and funneled into my local library, where I can enjoy it without any streaming service taking it away from me. Where do you get these FLACs? Do you have a pipeline/automated system or it’s done manually? Asking for a friend.

If you wish to sail the high seas, look up "piracy megathread". Soulseek and Doubledoubletop are some of my favorites.

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Post by _3u10 »

croon wrote: post #293
drstewart wrote: post #268

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Thank you. I don't understand why Spotify licenses all this rock and rap music when I'm only interested in pop music. So ridiculous. Why can't they just exclude all the stuff I don't care about?

I assume you're sarcastic, but Spotify is spending hundreds of millions on Rogan alone (and many other podcasts on top of that), and I have yet to listen to a single podcast on Spotify. They're making you pay for branching out to other content than music. If I want podcasts I go to my podcast app(s).

They aren’t making you pay anything, there’s a wide variety of music services.

A company offering an entertainment service is hardly forcing anyone to do anything.

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Post by _3u10 »

VS1999 wrote: post #48
_3u10 wrote: post #37

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You’re free to cancel, and I’m sure customer service would give you the refund on the extra cost for the first month. I’ve noticed this in restaurants too, they just change the price like a normal business in an inflationary environment. I bet you get raises too, or ask for them and move on if you don’t get them.

I have no idea how that relates to what I wrote. Edit: Actually I see now, you're replying to where I said they bought services and raised prices without the customer consent. If we're using a restaurant comparison, it'd be like your local burger shop raising prices because your meal comes bundled with discounted carwashes. Consumers generally don't want bundles, they want to buy the thing they're interested in.

Most restaurants also do this, ever ordered a combo?

Ever gotten a car wash from a gas pump?

If you don’t like it there’s plenty of restaurants that don’t do combos. And plenty of gas stations that don’t have car washing.

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Post by thek3nger »

nmisko wrote: post #364
megalomanu wrote: post #132

I highly recommend trying Qobuz! Artists are paid more, the catalog is rich and comprehensive (I recommend to early users who might have felt a lack of content to give it another try, as it's now much richer), most albums are available in Hi-Res Audio, the UI is nice, there is no fluff (just music, nothing more), and most importantly, content is curated, with many articles written by critics and journalists, artist i…

Could you explain how artists are paid more? The subscription fee is roughly the same.

Any service without a free tier pays more than Spotify because only premium users contribute to the number of streaming that will be payed.

In some sense, premium Spotify users pay also for the free users and, therefore, the average is lower (yes, there is ads income but I bet is negligible).

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Post by HenryBemis »

avtolik wrote: post #75
HenryBemis wrote: post #9

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> I don't want, and never wanted, Audiobooks or Podcasts or News or other crap on the music app. Regarding Spotify, which I use daily, I also dislike their updates. I remember some months back I could disable/hide "Recommendations". Now in all my (personal & private) playlists I get a list of Recommendations. It's an annoyance because when I scroll fast to reach the bottom "to listen to that one song" it end up surfi…

I really like Podcast Addict. Its price is like 10$ per year to hide a small ad on the bottom and to get a choice which screen is the first to show.

I got no prob paying for apps (I buy/subscribe to all of them). I simply hate it when I pay them, and they merely 'hide the add' but still 'talk' to adjust, googletagmanager, and so many other advertisers/trackers.

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Post by qnleigh »

reducesuffering wrote: post #150
whstl wrote: post #99

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Even Spotify is smart enough to know that people will leave them if this ever happens.

No, that's the end game here. People already mostly have parasocial relationships with artists. There's already famous AI personality Instagrams and Vtubers. With the advent of Generative AI video like Sora and Generative AI music like Suno, people will find their perfect generative AI niche and follow an artist story/interaction that they can't even tell is real or not. Generative AI will create millions of niches,…

I find it really hard to imagine people following famous AI personalities as much as real musicians if they know that the AI are AI. Humans are social creatures.

I guess at some point there will be a popular "musician" who is relieved to be an algorithm, and we'll see what happens.

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