Feels kind of gross to include the nieces observation that he had been stressed as some kind of counterpoint to the statement in the title.
'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
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#393Feels kind of gross to include the nieces observation that he had been stressed as some kind of counterpoint to the statement in the title.
Yeah I’d be pretty stressed if I felt like I was going to be killed.
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#394The silicon valley CIA squad really showing up for this one.
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#395I feel like when there is financial malfeasance, we find enough cases of it in the wild to document that it has really happened. Whether it's Enron, or stories of lobbyists and politicians acting in self interest in ways that break the law, or even just municipal officials embezzling, we have known cases of that. So if you ever have the feeling that big financial transactions might be ethically questionable, you can at least know that such things have happened in the wild.
I think the same is true of war crimes in wars - enough of the worst type of things have really happened, and been documented, so there's nothing on the face of it that is outlandish if you heard a new report of such a thing.
But how about deaths in suspicious circumstances like this one? Is there a historical record of these kinds of things being carried out, especially in the western world, in circumstances where the motive is corporate self-interest? What's the most clear cut case we have of something falling in that falls into (for lack of a better term) the Michael Clayton category?
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#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you believe Epstein was murdered you are in a tiny, tiny, tiny minority of very gullible or very simple minded people. Upon a cursory review of both the facts of the matter and the very best arguments conspiracists can copy and paste, it is self-evident that he killed himself.
And the cameras just happened to be out of order when he chose to kill himself of course.
> And the cameras just happened to be out of order when he chose to kill himself of course.
I know you think this is really brilliant invective, but it just reveals that you don't know what you're talking about.
Epstein was being monitored by guards and cameras in part because he had already tried to kill himself once. (I suppose you don't dispute that?)
The cameras you're referring to are the specific cameras with his cell door in their FOV. MCC New York had a history of such lapses, and the cameras were seized and analysed by the FBI. No evidence was found of anything other than the US prison system being shitty.
But more importantly there were functioning cameras showing the entrance to Epstein's block from the accessible communal area an assassin would have used for entrance/egress. From the DOJ report:
> Thus, anyone entering or attempting to enter Epstein’s SHU tier from the SHU common area would have been picked up by that video camera.
No such person was seen.
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#397Feels kind of gross to include the nieces observation that he had been stressed as some kind of counterpoint to the statement in the title.
Yeah, way to raise doubt about a nice narrative.
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#399I feel like when there is financial malfeasance, we find enough cases of it in the wild to document that it has really happened. Whether it's Enron, or stories of lobbyists and politicians acting in self interest in ways that break the law, or even just municipal officials embezzling, we have known cases of that. So if you ever have the feeling that big financial transactions might be ethically questionable, you can…
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#400I feel like when there is financial malfeasance, we find enough cases of it in the wild to document that it has really happened. Whether it's Enron, or stories of lobbyists and politicians acting in self interest in ways that break the law, or even just municipal officials embezzling, we have known cases of that. So if you ever have the feeling that big financial transactions might be ethically questionable, you can…
It reminds me closely of Gary Webb's death, though the circumstances are different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb#Death
But more to your question, I think a great example of corporate self-interest leading to serious crimes is the Ebay stalking scandal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal