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Pardon what recent changes?
You don’t think the subject of this story isn’t a change of their rules and regulations?
I don’t see how security cameras impacts the economics of running an Airbnb.
Airbnb is banning indoor security cameras
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#392Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don’t think the subject of this story isn’t a change of their rules and regulations?
I don’t see how security cameras impacts the economics of running an Airbnb.
Some owners were using them to record damage or vandalism to a property.
Without them that could make some properties more expensive to maintain and repair.
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I'm a digital nomad. One luggage, no permanent home, been fifteen years. I used to use AirBnB all the time. They gradually become more and more, well, "large company". Governments gradually made AirBnB illegal or effectively illegal, largely or wholly killing off AirBnB in given cities, or countries. For example, it used to be about impossible to get into Amsterdam, because of rent control and renting regulations; no…
All of the above makes total sense (to me) when you realize that people don't know how to price rentals at all - just like the average person doesn't know how to price restaurant food. When you know truly how to price (and cost!) something, you know when and where you can offer discounts. If cost to acquire a tenant is $2k, then the discount to preserve a good tenant should be about $2k per tenant turnover time .
Almost like Uber was marketed, AirBnB was not initially sold as a "make primary income off this". It was a way for people with excess assets (spare car and some time, spare room in a big house, etc) to make some money and the companies were the broker.
Turning Airbnb into a full-blown rental market with people and LLCs buying houses just for AirBnB was the downfall. At least, that's my interpretation.
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Give it time. I'd not be surprised to read that Air BnB are going to curtail this behavior next. The only reason you're doing this is to game the system. Be honest and charge more.
No the logistics and economics don’t work to run an Airbnb the same as a hotel. Why would Airbnb add regulations that make their customers less profitable or financially viable?
Meanwhile: https://www.rentalscaleup.com/airbnb-adds-2-more-to-guest-fe...
This change, affecting international bookers, will make it more expensive to rent, thus potentially affecting a hosts bottom line.
This may not affect you, but it will affect others.
And remember, as a host, you’re not the customer.
The person booking is the customer.
You? You’re just a supplier.
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#395I'm worried this ban will only affect honest hosts. Anyway, what Airbnb should really ban is hosts charging a mandatory cleaning fee when also requiring their guests to do the cleaning. We just stayed at one this weekend, and like almost all our previous bookings, the host asked us to: - Take off all bedding and towels and start a load of laundry - Do all the dishes and start the dishwasher (but required to hand-wash…
I'm a host. I charge a $200 cleaning fee and my cleaners charge me $250, so I lose money on cleaning. I ask guests to: * Strip the beds (otherwise, I find that people re-make beds and it's hard to tell if they have been slept in), * Load and start the dishwasher (the dishwasher takes 4 hrs, and the cleaners travel to my remote house, and I want to make sure they can finish in about that time) * Take the trash down to…
“ I ask guests to:
* Strip the beds”
“ But an unreasonable task is like strip the bed…”
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky, 2022
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/airbnb-ceo-guests-shouldnt-ha...
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#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
My cleaners travel 25 mins each way to my remote home and spend 5 hours cleaning. In a hotel, with identical setups in each room, they can do a lot more work in that time. My checkout list is clearly defined in my listing, which is doing great based on my ratings and bookings. The cleaning fee is not hidden. I would re-evaluate if I were not successful.
That’s entirely your problem. And sure, your listing may be doing “great” now, but what if Airbnb change the rules as they may start looking at doing? Sounds to me that your model may not be sustainable in the medium to long term. Life’s full of “we did like gangbusters last year until…”
If it stops being sustainable, I'll change my policy. I'm willing to change. I'm always revisiting my policies / listing / amenities / etc.
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My existing solution does, by asking guests to remove the sheets. Obviously, if no sheets are removed, they would all be cleaned.
And if your guest don’t remove the sheets after they sleep on them?
I pay my cleaners to make sure the home is clean. Simple as that.
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#398Earlier quoted context omitted.
My cleaners travel 25 mins each way to my remote home and spend 5 hours cleaning. In a hotel, with identical setups in each room, they can do a lot more work in that time. My checkout list is clearly defined in my listing, which is doing great based on my ratings and bookings. The cleaning fee is not hidden. I would re-evaluate if I were not successful.
I'm confused, if the dishwasher takes 4 hours and the cleaners clean for 5 hours, why do the guests have to start the dishwasher?
Are we arguing over the difficulty of loading soap and pressing a button? Yes, it would be possible for the cleaner to do it, and I don't negatively review a guest who doesn't. But it makes things much easier if the cleaner can simply unload upon arrival... and once again, helps keep pests at bay. My property is in the woods and it can be a challenge.
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All of the above makes total sense (to me) when you realize that people don't know how to price rentals at all - just like the average person doesn't know how to price restaurant food. When you know truly how to price (and cost!) something, you know when and where you can offer discounts. If cost to acquire a tenant is $2k, then the discount to preserve a good tenant should be about $2k per tenant turnover time .
Almost like Uber was marketed, AirBnB was not initially sold as a "make primary income off this". It was a way for people with excess assets (spare car and some time, spare room in a big house, etc) to make some money and the companies were the broker. Turning Airbnb into a full-blown rental market with people and LLCs buying houses just for AirBnB was the downfall. At least, that's my interpretation.
I think Paris tried to curb this buy allowing Airbnb, but you can only rent out max 50% of the year. This makes it so local owners can make some money, but corporations wouldn't be able to get the yield they need at 50% occupancy.
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> In my experience Airbnb isn’t even cheaper, just has more “interesting” housing available. I think it depends. For relatively short stays of one or two people, a hotel is nearly always a better deal in my opinion (for short stays the cleaning fee alone can be a big percentage of the total price). But for week or longer stays with a family or larger, they usually come out ahead given multiple bedrooms and the fact t…
The whole house thing for a group is where I see Airbnb (or VRBO) etc. being a big win over most hotel options. But for most singles or couples traveling, predictability and lack of issues is pretty much the priority. That's not to say I only stay in chain hotels--I've stayed in plenty of B&Bs and small inns--but I don't like rolling the dice on that aspect of my travel more than I need to.
Absolutely. Most of the Airbnb/VRBO that we’ve done was to accommodate 12-15 people including 5-7 children. Only other time I do Airbnb is for specialty situations like a beach house where we can have a big patio with a grill etc.