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Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Regarding window management, what it really needs is (ironically) an iPad feature called Stage Manager. It feels so perfect for this use but it’s a shame it doesn’t exist

I wonder if using something like stage manager on Vision Pro would cause a lot of people to get motion sickness… I can imagine large windows flying around in virtual space three or 4 feet from you is going to cause a lot of disorientation for many people.

Currently, when you recenter your view, things just fade out and then fade back into their new position rather than fly over.

I would expect any window management system to be the same when auto tiling

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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I love this comment, I think you're completely right. What I love most about this comment is how it caused me to reflect on what I use daily and get some amount of joy from. When it comes to Apple products in particular I use an Apple Studio display at home, I use it for 10hours per day, every day, and honestly I have no complaints, it's probably one of the best bits of technology I use daily. However, it's completel…

Yeah, I agree. I rolled my eyes when I bought the Studio Display because of the price (I got the VESA option so I also had to factor in $200 for an Ergotron LX just so I could use it the way I’d want) and I’m annoyed by its lack of power button, its garbage web camera, and the really that it has no better picture quality than the v2 LG UltraFine 5K it was replacing, despite costing $300 more, but if it broke tomorrow…

Why say no to the the nano texture? Looking at a studio display these days and trying to understand the option

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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It shouldn't be surprising that an AR workstation isn't as good as the real thing. If you're at home or at work, the AVP is going to sit on the shelf while you sit at your workstation. While an AR set can, in theory, surround you with code, you can only really focus on one window at a time. Old-fashioned monitors have had a long time to get good at providing that experience. Still, it would be pretty darned cool to b…

> Old-fashioned monitors have had a long time to get good at providing that experience. That's part of the problem framing the AVP as a system for 2D floating screens. 2D screens are good at what they do. 360 degree 3D with Six Degrees of Freedom is a completely different surface area and we are still at the Horseless Carriage stage of development of that affordance space. There are a few experiments in what's possib…

The problem is it's not a horseless carriage... it's more like a hang-glider or something.

For the some niche things, fantastic, it's unique. Feeling inside a 3d scene, two handed manipulations of 3d objects... it's the hang-glider jumping off a mountain which no horse can do. If you currently render something in 3d on a monitor, VR might help and some new things like training for physical tasks might be cool too.

The hang-glider just isn't useful for commuters getting from A to B which in this case, is office work. It's text, it's numbers, it's organisation, it's communication. Throwing things around in 3d is just a gimmick that will likely slow you down. Moving your head or waving your hands around are not better ergonomically than a good monitor, keyboard and seating. Using a keystroke to flip the app/tabs in your field of view is more comfortable than turning to look at your wall.

> VR Immersive IDE

This is like every 3d scifi UX you could see in compsci department since the 90s. I get it, everyone wants to create that cool looking scene from Prometheus but sadly no-one wants 4 lines of code exploded into a huge visual call-graph with dozens of nodes, interconnections everywhere and translucent text. VR won't change that. No-one really wants to drive around a city to find their files in a Gibson either.

For VR, you don't want to look at text that's far away, you don't want to look at text at weird angles... so what is a 3d environment adding? The ideal is to bring perfectly sized legible text at a comfortable focal distance into your gaze, that's what an automobile will need to do.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Because "he" is grammatically correct when the gender is unknown.

Is it really? Also when the username contains „girl“ it may give a hint.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_neutrality_in_languag....

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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I almost returned mine for that exact reason until I used it in bed before going to sleep. I have never fallen asleep faster. I know it sounds really strange that a computer strapped to my face helps me sleep but I guess something about the whole immersive environment really helps. I also don’t feel the pressure on my head when I’m lying down.

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You're very smug but it's obviously not the same experience.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Yeah, I really like the Macbook and the iPhone, but basically everything else apple produces is pretty shit these days, even the airpods are just alright (I mean, the audio quality, design, and form factor are amazing, but they are super buggy and there are better wireless earbuds for the price). It would be a great shame if a secure, well designed, easy to use computer loaded with a custom-built, well supported unix…

Why does anyone like wireless headphones? 3 different pieces to track, have to constantly be on charge, and pricey at that. I ended up finally buying some iems

As a train commuter, wireless headphones are a massive improvement over wired for my semi-daily commute. I used to have the headphone wires constantly getting caught on my bag, other people's jackets, getting twisted and knotted in my bag, etc.

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If a meeting is simplistic enough not to need planning and action items, you don't need a meeting. Make a conference call. If action items are simplistic enough that you don't need to consider calendars for the future, don't need the ability to show the status of existing concerning items, and any reliable information is conveyed via paper, you've got multiple problems. Mostly you have a culture problem, to put it si…

multitasking is a myth. you can't futz with a computer and pay attention.

It depends on what you mean by multitasking and the expectations. People multitask from birth.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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Don’t get it. So many reviewers have the tiniest of ide windows up, like on a 11” laptop. When I code in Vision Pro, I can set 5k resolution to the Mac link since my studio is hooked to a studio display. I’ll get over 100 readable lines, similar to a vertical 4k monitor.

Re: Coding in Vision Pro

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When reading about headset experiences, I'd de-weigh any insights that are within 3 months of the first headset purchase. The first few dozen sessions are novel, you get a kick (and social media views) about sharing how completely your life has changed to fit the headset. More often than not, it's collecting dust on the shelf within a few months. Sort of like an expensive blender you were so excited to get, you imagi…

Couldn't agree more. I bought an AVP on day one to be used -exclusively- as a monitor extender for coding. It's untenable. The only way I could avoid significant neck/back pain from the weight was to sit in a reclining chair. That wouldn't be a bad coding setup, but my eye strain was pretty significant, too. I ended up returning mine. This is a necessary 1.0 to build out the app ecosystem, etc. but it's absolutely no…

Sounds like a fit issue. I code all day. Recliner, couch, standing. Mac link at 5k emulation. Apple assigned me 21w, but I found it unusable. 36w put weight on outer cheekbones and was finally wearable. Removing the light seal and using some pads as spacers is how I use it now. Larger FOV. A bit weight and less cantilever
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