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Starlink's laser system is beaming 42 petabytes of data per day

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My novice view....Laser connections are point to point, so they can be between satellites....But to the end user equipment,having those many point to point laser connections might be too difficult or impractical to achieve...So that's where they use radiowaves, which means any satellite over the horizon can talk to a dish...

Re: Starlink's laser system is beaming 42 petabytes of data per day

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watch, or leave running as background noise …

Any recommendations for shows that make good background noise? I wish they had more concerts.

For me it depends on what I'm doing. During working hours I have Soma FM playing at a low volume. Otherwise I'll probably have cooking videos or history documentaries playing as the background noise.

Re: Starlink's laser system is beaming 42 petabytes of data per day

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The amount of bleeding edge innovation that is rapidly developed and deployed into production in Musks companies is incredible.

>The amount of bleeding edge innovation that is rapidly developed and deployed into production in Musks companies is incredible.

SpaceX for sure.

Hard to argue that Tesla is "bleeding edge" anymore; they maintain some advantages, but have fallen behind in other domains.

Re: Starlink's laser system is beaming 42 petabytes of data per day

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Has anyone tried Starlink? I super curious as to whether it's a decent drop in replacement for the ISP have been using at home, and have had trouble with since day one. I won't mention any names (but I will say that it sounds a bit like Smodabone). What is the latency like? The variability of the up/down? Does it do what it says on the tin? Is (non-professional) online gaming a go?

>Has anyone tried Starlink? I super curious as to whether it's a decent drop in replacement for the ISP have been using at home

I use it when I'm venturing around my rural area, which has spotty (or zero) LTE and broadband. It's awesome for that, literal game-changer.

But it does suffer from downtime, sometimes poor reception, bit of lag, etc. It's the difference between 99% uptime and 99.999999%; you'll notice if you're using it all day, every day. It's also more expensive than my home broadband for lower speeds. I don't think you could replace your ISP, unless your ISP is pretty bad.

Re: Starlink's laser system is beaming 42 petabytes of data per day

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I think it's likely a bad idea at this point to bet against Elon - he seems to make more good decisions than bad decisions, and is able to attract and keep the talent that is enabling his companies to snowball exponentially towards reaching the abundance of the universe. My deepest hope currently is that the riches of the universe now on the horizon of being relatively easily accessible, in a systematic and efficient…

Past performance is a piss poor indicator of future performance. You can’t deny (I don’t think) that the things he’s done are amazing. He’s in the zone where he’s smelt too many of his farts though, and believes he can do no wrong, which is historically a very bad place to be. I hope, for all of the awesome things he’s said he’d like to do, that they don’t come agutsa due to that

> the things he's done are amazing

The things he's _purchased_ are amazing.

Re: Starlink's laser system is beaming 42 petabytes of data per day

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So that is "432 Mbit/s per laser, and 9000 lasers total". I don't know you guys but I find that statement much more relatable than "42 PB/day". Interestingly, they also say each laser "can sustain a 100Gbps connection per link" (although another part of the article even claims 200 Gbit/s). That means each laser is grossly underused on average, at 0.432% of its maximum capacity. Which makes sense since 100 Gbit/s is p…

I think the average Instagram or TikTok user must be using more than 100GB/month. And if you count YouTube and Netflix, it's probably more than that.

This is being downvoted but it's probably about right.

Re: Starlink's laser system is beaming 42 petabytes of data per day

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This obviously has no relevance for starlink which does not have local datacenters for cdn purposes. All that bandwidth is going through the satellites right before it reaches the user.

I wouldn't be surprised if starlink doesn't at least experiment with making the satellites a big bunch of CDN nodes. Imagine they put 10TB of flash memory on the satellites and run virtual machines for the big CDN companies (cloudflare, Google, Netflix etc). I reckon that 10TB is still big enough to service a good little chunk of internet traffic.

Definitely sounds like a no-brainer / reasonable next step.

Most ISPs have CND appliances in their racks to save on uplink bandwidth. And from a satellite perspective the uplink (in this scenario: the downlink from the satellite to the gateway) definitely is the expensive bottleneck.

You want to avoid congestion and every bit of caching could be helpful.

Then it comes down to the mass and power budget (and the reliability of flash drives in space) - but that doesn't seem too terrible.

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Past performance is a piss poor indicator of future performance. You can’t deny (I don’t think) that the things he’s done are amazing. He’s in the zone where he’s smelt too many of his farts though, and believes he can do no wrong, which is historically a very bad place to be. I hope, for all of the awesome things he’s said he’d like to do, that they don’t come agutsa due to that

> the things he's done are amazing The things he's _purchased_ are amazing.

This is obviously untrue. what you’re really saying is “I don’t agree with Elons views so it would be uncomfortable for me to think that he has some admirable qualities, so I don’t allow myself to think about it”

Re: Starlink's laser system is beaming 42 petabytes of data per day

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So that is "432 Mbit/s per laser, and 9000 lasers total". I don't know you guys but I find that statement much more relatable than "42 PB/day". Interestingly, they also say each laser "can sustain a 100Gbps connection per link" (although another part of the article even claims 200 Gbit/s). That means each laser is grossly underused on average, at 0.432% of its maximum capacity. Which makes sense since 100 Gbit/s is p…

I think the average Instagram or TikTok user must be using more than 100GB/month. And if you count YouTube and Netflix, it's probably more than that.

My smart TV used 483 GB in the last 30 days
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