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Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by rrr_oh_man »

mikepurvis wrote: post #331
wand3r wrote: post #327

Adjacent question, leaving aside value proposition. Do companies pay for 1000 seats like this? I didn't realize slack is $5 a user a month. Do they discount this for bulk, or are companies paying $5k/month $60k/yearly? These subscriptions must really add up. On All In, they discussed the leverage from AI tools and they probably also meant open source, but one of the companies just rolled their own instance of a big m…

I'm not really in the know, but I bet the enterprise discounts don't kick in until you're at the tens of thousands of users. In any case, $60k sounds like a lot as a top-line figure to some bean-counter, but all these sales pitches follow the same basic pattern: - This is an essential, best-in-class tool. You wouldn't deny your employees a laptop or a free lunch, would you? - $5/user/mo is a bargain compared to the h…

> I bet the enterprise discounts don't kick in until you're at the tens of thousands of users

I'll take that bet ;) Not really sure about OpenAI, but you can absolutely negotiate with almost any company.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by IlliOnato »

jorvi wrote: post #330
F7F7F7 wrote: post #286

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The vast majority of people aren’t going to make the association. Even in the HN demo. I think people are vastly over estimating Microsoft’s ownership over ‘Teams’. Even within a tech context. Plus, everything we’ve seen from Microsoft in their partnership with OpenAI has been Co-Pilot. Which is why I use MS Teams daily and did not make the connection.

You are wrong and the vast majority of people are making the association. I showed the title to five colleagues and all of them assumed it referred to Teams the product. Not to mention the overwhelming majority of people in these threads.

Well, perhaps they meant "vast majority of people that count", which for them includes F7F7F7, F7F7F7, and of course F7F7F7! :-)

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by Zambyte »

michaelt wrote: post #378
Zambyte wrote: post #285

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It's interesting that you're so trusting of strangers knowing your inner thoughts (OpenAI) but not your family

How could I look my wife in the eye, or expect my kids to grow up happy, if they knew their dad doesn't know how to use a regex to detect emojis in a string?

I hope there is more going on behind those eyes than not being a regex expert

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by lhl »

eurekin wrote: post #220
wruza wrote: post #172

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I just spoke all night to 8x7B and can say that it sucks much less than 3.5. It doesn’t screw up and apologize all the time (and screw up again) and doesn’t repeat what I just said verbatim. That is on topics I have a decent expertise in myself. Never had this experience of periodically forgetting that it’s not a human company with 3.5.

How are you accessing it?

For macOS and Linux, Ollama is probably the easiest way to try Mixtral (and a large number of models) locally. LM Studio is also nice and available for Mac, Windows, and Linux.

As these models can be quite large and memory intensive, if you want to just give it a quick spin, huggingface.co/chat, chat.nbox.ai, and labs.pplx.ai all have Mixtral hosted atm.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by Zambyte »

watwut wrote: post #388
Zambyte wrote: post #285

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It's interesting that you're so trusting of strangers knowing your inner thoughts (OpenAI) but not your family

Is that truly interesting? OP does not have to care about what AI think of him. OP does notnhave to care about accidentally offending or hurting AI either. Open does nor have to care about whether AI finds him silly or whatever. Normal humans care about all of those with their families.

AI is a tool controlled by people. In this case, people who are not OP.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by IlliOnato »

throwaway13623 wrote: post #246
lwhi wrote: post #197

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I disagree. We shouldn't assume a basic sentence capitalised word refers to a product. If a reference to a product is intended, we should clarify that association some other way; i.e. MS Teams.

In this case the original title is "ChatGPT for teams", so the headline was actually editorialized when it was submitted, which is discouraged by HN guidelines. Normally it would be ok to capitallize words to match what many other US publications use, but this capitalization introduces confusion. I can only speak for myself, but I made the assumption that this was an integration with MS Teams. This would have been av…

Title case in unavoidably mentally taxing. It's trivial to convert sentence case to title case, but highly non-trivial in general to convert title case to sentence case (I know, I write code to do this :-)) To do it right, context, or even general intelligence is required. Basically, converting to Title Case looses information (capitalization) that can be important.

Title case was invented when there were much limited typographical options than now, to emphasize, well, titles. On a web page, there are so many better ways to do it, there is no reason to preserve the archaic convention.

To my eye it does not even look that nice...

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by Zambyte »

eganist wrote: post #369
Zambyte wrote: post #362

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My point was not that they should talk about the Holy Roman Empire with their family, but that they shouldn't share information with strangers that they wouldn't share with their family. If you don't want your family to know something, you shouldn't tell it to OpenAI either.

> If you don't want your family to know something, you shouldn't tell it to OpenAI either. Yeah, I think this is an over reduction of personal privacy models, but can you tell me why you believe this?

The reason you wouldn't say something to someone is because you are afraid of the power that you give people along with that knowledge.

Your family is in a a position of power, which is why it can be scary to share information with them. People at OpenAI are also at a position of power, but people who use their services seem to forget that, since they're talking to them through a computer that automatically responds.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by muhammadusman »

idiotsecant wrote: post #377
freediver wrote: post #326

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At Kagi we plan to offer this for $20/mo and 6 family members included. You get both paid search (much better than openai bing) + AI (gpt-3.5-turbo/claude-instant). If you need gpt-4 it will be an optional $15/mo upgrade per family member.

This is not a comment on the Kagi service, but more a comment on transitions in general. I have tried Kagi and I think it's great. I really want to use Kagi. I want to support Kagi. I have a mental stickynote that says 'start using Kagi on everything'. Every time I sit down to do some tasks it just falls to the bottom of the to-do pile because I feel like there's so many devices I now need to go through and update. G…

Start with your most used devices, I'm guessing your phone and your main computer. Then the others will slowly follow. Once I switched my phone's default search to Kagi, it made a huge difference because I search a lot more while being on the go and being able to get good, no-spam, no-ads filled search results can be an amazing experience.
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